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Question for the armchair warriors amongst us. If it does fully kick off (like big time) between usa and Iran - would Russia realistically get involved militarily (more than just providing weapons/ aid/ intelligence)?

Reason I ask is Twitter is filled with stuff on this now and linking wider Middle East conflict with ww3 with Russia getting involved.

Whilst i suppose it is plausible and therefore worrying, I just cannot see putin being stretched even more thinly in Ukraine, to actually put his military directly against the USA in a totally new war.

I imagine the likely scenario is Russia giving Iran their ‘support’ without being proper involved and actually letting Iran hang itself solely for the Russian benefit of distracting the west/ USA from Ukraine.

Anyway, wondered what people here thought. It’s all a bit mad.

No chance Russia gets involved imo they cant fight a multi front it wouldnt be wise for them.

Although Iran better watch out old Biden had a message for them earlier in his conference could get spicy

My warning to the ayatollah was that if they continue to move against those troops, we will respond. And he should be prepared. It has nothing to do with Israel.
 
Question for the armchair warriors amongst us. If it does fully kick off (like big time) between usa and Iran - would Russia realistically get involved militarily (more than just providing weapons/ aid/ intelligence)?

Reason I ask is Twitter is filled with stuff on this now and linking wider Middle East conflict with ww3 with Russia getting involved.

Whilst i suppose it is plausible and therefore worrying, I just cannot see putin being stretched even more thinly in Ukraine, to actually put his military directly against the USA in a totally new war.

I imagine the likely scenario is Russia giving Iran their ‘support’ without being proper involved and actually letting Iran hang itself solely for the Russian benefit of distracting the west/ USA from Ukraine.

Anyway, wondered what people here thought. It’s all a bit mad.

Iran isn't taking on the US. The US would devastate its air force and navy from stand off distances.
 
Question for the armchair warriors amongst us. If it does fully kick off (like big time) between usa and Iran - would Russia realistically get involved militarily (more than just providing weapons/ aid/ intelligence)?

Reason I ask is Twitter is filled with stuff on this now and linking wider Middle East conflict with ww3 with Russia getting involved.

Whilst i suppose it is plausible and therefore worrying, I just cannot see putin being stretched even more thinly in Ukraine, to actually put his military directly against the USA in a totally new war.

I imagine the likely scenario is Russia giving Iran their ‘support’ without being proper involved and actually letting Iran hang itself solely for the Russian benefit of distracting the west/ USA from Ukraine.

Anyway, wondered what people here thought. It’s all a bit mad.

The US would deal with Iran in very short order, but the repercussions would likely see the region become very unstable and the crazies exit the woodwork.

The US vs Iran would be a special 3 day military operation.
 
No chance the US could reduce Iran's fighting capabilities to next to nil in just 3 days, Serbia a much smaller country held out for over a month with a sustained NATO aerial assault and it took intervention from Russia to final get them to back down in Kosovo.
 
No chance the US could reduce Iran's fighting capabilities to next to nil in just 3 days, Serbia a much smaller country held out for over a month with a sustained NATO aerial assault and it took intervention from Russia to final get them to back down in Kosovo.

True and any stand off campaign against Iran would last months and not days. Serbia was a purely air campaign with limited NATO scope and rules of engagement. Iran would be similar if it ever happened but a lot larger in scope.

You only need to look at how it played out against Iraq to see how a full on war would look against Iran. The initial military campaign to destroy the Iranian regime and military would be quick but the “war” would last years.
 
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Doesn't Iran have a nuke and long range delivery rockets? So if U.S ever wants to have a war with Iran, they'd need to nuke Iran first otherwise Israel will be glassed
 
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Doesn't Iran have a nuke and long range delivery rockets? So if U.S ever wants to have a war with Iran, they'd need to nuke Iran first otherwise Israel will be glassed

Israel has made it clear that it will never allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons. Israel already has around 200 nuclear weapons (homemade) and would light up Iran like a Christmas tree if they ever hit it with a nuke.
 
No chance the US could reduce Iran's fighting capabilities to next to nil in just 3 days, Serbia a much smaller country held out for over a month with a sustained NATO aerial assault and it took intervention from Russia to final get them to back down in Kosovo.

Different era mind especially when it comes to the comparative levels of advancement in intel and hardware.
 
No chance the US could reduce Iran's fighting capabilities to next to nil in just 3 days, Serbia a much smaller country held out for over a month with a sustained NATO aerial assault and it took intervention from Russia to final get them to back down in Kosovo.

What is the US build up now, two strike groups in the med plus the whatever Army forces are in Syria. That’s a lot of bang bang.
 
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Question for the armchair warriors amongst us. If it does fully kick off (like big time) between usa and Iran - would Russia realistically get involved militarily (more than just providing weapons/ aid/ intelligence)?

Reason I ask is Twitter is filled with stuff on this now and linking wider Middle East conflict with ww3 with Russia getting involved.

Whilst i suppose it is plausible and therefore worrying, I just cannot see putin being stretched even more thinly in Ukraine, to actually put his military directly against the USA in a totally new war.

I imagine the likely scenario is Russia giving Iran their ‘support’ without being proper involved and actually letting Iran hang itself solely for the Russian benefit of distracting the west/ USA from Ukraine.

Anyway, wondered what people here thought. It’s all a bit mad.

Outside of nukes Russia ain't got a pot to peewee in
 

What do people think more Russian propoganda or have they actually been taken out, I see some photos floating around of what looks like ATACMS that the Russians were parading.
ATACMS is a ballistic missile, so it's path is much easier to predict and knock out than a low flying cruise missile - so it's entirely possible they've intercepted some of them.
 
Question for the armchair warriors amongst us. If it does fully kick off (like big time) between usa and Iran - would Russia realistically get involved militarily (more than just providing weapons/ aid/ intelligence)?

Reason I ask is Twitter is filled with stuff on this now and linking wider Middle East conflict with ww3 with Russia getting involved.

Whilst i suppose it is plausible and therefore worrying, I just cannot see putin being stretched even more thinly in Ukraine, to actually put his military directly against the USA in a totally new war.

I imagine the likely scenario is Russia giving Iran their ‘support’ without being proper involved and actually letting Iran hang itself solely for the Russian benefit of distracting the west/ USA from Ukraine.

Anyway, wondered what people here thought. It’s all a bit mad.
I would agree with that too. Whilst Russia and Iran are clearly working together, ultimately it's an alliance of desperation by despots. I don't think either would openly join the other on a war footing.

As for Russia providing Iran with nukes. I've already been chastised in this thread for even posing the idea. But it's no secret that Iran are desperately trying to acquire nukes. And Russia has an abundance (despite them being old). I can't see what else Iran would be getting out of their side of the alliance otherwise.
 
I can't see what else Iran would be getting out of their side of the alliance otherwise.

The main thing Iran gets out of the alliance is keeping Syria intact as an ally. Iran has spent a long time maintaining its foothold on the Mediterranean by nurturing Hezbollah in Lebanon (Hezbollah is a larger military than the actual Lebanese army) and making connections in Syria. And it gets a counterweight to the US's backing of its main regional rival in Saudi Arabia.

No country has ever given another country nukes. Nor will they. Whether Russia is an Iranian ally or not, the weight Russia gets by being a nuclear power gets diluted by the spread of nuclear weapons and anyone who isn't an idiot surely realises that Iran are not a long term reliable ally.
 
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No country has ever given another country nukes. Nor will they. Whether Russia is an Iranian ally or not, the weight Russia gets by being a nuclear power gets diluted by the spread of nuclear weapons and anyone who isn't an idiot surely realises that Iran are not a long term reliable ally.
France => Israel
China => Pakistan
Russia => Belarus
 
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