Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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News is news
Doesn’t follow that it’s fact
Trump needs to shut his filthy mouth.If Trump ever becomes president again, he says he will pull America out of NATO unless article 5 is changed, he wants article 5 to only apply to certain countries and that everyone else in NATO would not get such protection
Presumably Trump wants nato changed so that only US, UK, Canada, Germany and France are full members to get article 5 protection. He says he wants to remove any risk that the US can be drawn into a war for a small meaningless country
Trump Plots to Pull Out of NATO -- If He Doesn't Get His Way
Donald Trump is discussing how the U.S. might pull out of NATO or put it on "standby" should he be reelected and it not meet his demands, per sources.www.rollingstone.com
Last I read he is under a gagging order, and if speaks out again will be locked up.
It's a powder keg, I'm pretty sure Russia and co are "banking" on it.
Worrying times.
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The equipement will lessen in quality as the war progresses, bu russia wont run out of equipment anytime soon. The USSR bolstered their economy by mass producing military equipment. 1 to keep people employed and two to undermine the wests attempts and getting third world countries on side. I.e. Have some free tanks if you align with us.
The real question is if the russians can find suitable personnel to operate these pieces of equipment
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A lot of that old Soviet manufactured equipment has been sold off Lord of War style or stored poorly, leaving it unserviceable without significant renovation.
And that’s before we get into the equipment that’s on the books, but never actually existed due to systemic corruption.
And that’s before we get into the equipment that’s on the books, but never actually existed due to systemic corruption.
Is this that Democracy I've heard so much about, where the opposition says things you don't like so they should shut up and be gagged or be locked up?
Trump isn’t democratic. Democracy has consequences. Democratic societies hold people accountable.
You don’t seem to understand what a democratic society values. Freedom of speech isn’t freedom to say anything with impunity or without responsibility.
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That explains a lot, I should have guessed you were one of those MAGA Trumpites
Yes, I spend a lot of my time supporting Donald Trump; a Presidential candidate from a country I visited once 8 years ago. I'm definitely a "Maga Trumpite", what ever the **** that is.
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What you've wrote down here doesn't mean anything, but I'll go through it sentence by sentence.
Meaningless sentence; it very literally doesn't make sense. A person cannot be democratic nor undemocratic. You are just typing words that have no meaning.
A Political system in which the electorate votes for their chosen candidate based on their policies is how I'd define "Democracy", it really has nothing to do with "consequences", especially in this context. The only democratic consequences that could exist would be one's imposed by the electorate affecting their choice of candidate.
That actually isn't an intrinsic value of Democracy.
I don't think so far you've understood what a Democracy is, or even what the word means.
There's a definition for you below, you'll note the word Democracy has nothing to do with the law or consequences, it's simply a system where the citizens typically vote on their choice of leaders. It's different to something like a Dictatorship or an Autocracy; or in fact something radical like Anarchy where there's no system of government, or a Plutocracy like the Roman Empire where the rich Nobles lead. You can have law and thereby consequence in all of these systems, or not. It's not inherent.
I mean it very specifically is impunity from lawful consequences as per the First Amendment of the US constitution.
Meaningless sentence; it very literally doesn't make sense. A person cannot be democratic nor undemocratic. You are just typing words that have no meaning.
A Political system in which the electorate votes for their chosen candidate based on their policies is how I'd define "Democracy", it really has nothing to do with "consequences", especially in this context. The only democratic consequences that could exist would be one's imposed by the electorate affecting their choice of candidate.
That actually isn't an intrinsic value of Democracy.
I don't think so far you've understood what a Democracy is, or even what the word means.
There's a definition for you below, you'll note the word Democracy has nothing to do with the law or consequences, it's simply a system where the citizens typically vote on their choice of leaders. It's different to something like a Dictatorship or an Autocracy; or in fact something radical like Anarchy where there's no system of government, or a Plutocracy like the Roman Empire where the rich Nobles lead. You can have law and thereby consequence in all of these systems, or not. It's not inherent.
I mean it very specifically is impunity from lawful consequences as per the First Amendment of the US constitution.
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While I welcome diverse voices and all that guff, what's the point of all that?
No-one wants an inexpert analysis of the characteristics of democracy in a thread about the Ukraine-Russia war.
Take it to speakers corner, where they like this stuff.
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It's very clear he's a dishonourable actor.
This isn't the Trump thread. If you want to discuss Trump then do so here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/the-rise-and-fall-of-donald-trump.18917138/
Just because Roar87 makes lots of posts in multiple threads that read as anti Biden and pro Trump, doesn't mean that you should jump to conclusions...
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We can boil about 99.9% of your posting history to just being words that have no meaning. Trump is self serving and Putin and the like would prefer nothing more for him to become president again. It would completely derail support for Ukraine in russias favour and undermine Nato.
Trump already stated what he would
Do to Ukraine and nato should be come president again.
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