Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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ENORMOUS losses in Avdiivka today. Entire Russian lines collapsing. 1100+ wiped out.

Russia has more than enough human resources to take 1100 losses per day, every day for 5 or 10 years (Putin's propaganda is constantly comparing the current war with WW2, in which USSR lost over 20 millions and still won). After the presidential "elections" next year 100% there will be a new mobilization. Maybe it's a good idea for Ukraine to start preparing for more massive Russian attacks across the front next year.

Really USA and Germany should supply the Ukrainians with long range ATACAMS and Taurus missiles. These can be used to disable the Crimea bridge and other Russian logistics infrastructure. Destroying logistics can let Ukraine mount a successive offense, killing 1100 soldiers a day probably won't.

Long night ahead

Can't beat them on the battlefield...

No problem we can missile a hospital or a retirement block = win

By launching missiles and drones at Ukrainian cities they are forcing the Ukrainians to keep their air defense systems, like Patriot in their cities, rather than near the front lines. Which in turns makes it far easier for Russian attack helicopters and jets to operate on the front lines and stop any Ukrainian attacks.
 
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I read an interview today with a Ukrainian artilleryman who was supplied with a M109 Paladin back in May. Apparently when he got it the shells were landing within a 7m radius of where he wanted, but after half a year of constant use that has now widened to nearly a 70m radius, but that's somehting he can work with, what he can't work with however is the fact that due to current ammunition shortages he can only fire at Avdiivka 1/10th the daily amount he was firing at Bakhmut :(

We need to step up ammo production and supply, it's really holding them back now :(
 
Really USA and Germany should supply the Ukrainians with long range ATACAMS and Taurus missiles. These can be used to disable the Crimea bridge and other Russian logistics infrastructure. Destroying logistics can let Ukraine mount a successive offense, killing 1100 soldiers a day probably won't.
The big problem with striking targets inside Russia, is that ol' Vladdy has declared so many red lines at this point he's used up his felt tip and had to resort to using a pink one.

Because of this people just laugh at his red lines, but as comical as seeing them walked through have been there are actually some real ones where he will bring out the big guns, and it is not when Ukrainian forces are standing within visual distance of Moscow.

There is almost certainly a situation in this war where Putin would consider the use of tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine, after all total defeat would mean the end of his presidency (and possibly the Russian Federation) anyway so YOLO. Sadly nobody in the west can predict where that real red line may be because Russia (and the USSR) view nuclear weapons completely different to the west. Over hear when somebody says nuclear weapon everyone thinks of a big mushroom cloud vaporising a city and that's a nuclear weapon and the use of nuclear weapons is unthinkable. But in reality that's just the big "strategic" nukes, there are also smaller "tactical" nukes, I.E nuclear torpedo capable of taking out an aircraft carrier in one hit, nuclear depth charge capable of taking out multiple submarines, nuclear air defence missile capable of taking out a dozen bombers dumb enough to fly in formation, nuclear artillery shell capable of wiping out an advancing force, etc. Hell some of them are so small their blast is comparable to a large MOAB.

The holding of tactical nukes has all but ended in NATO but not in Russia where they maintain a 20:1 advantage over us (different treaty to big strategic nukes and that's what we cared about getting reduced), and they maintain that because they see their use as a completely separate issue to that of strategic nukes, with none of the associated taboos.

This is why we have to be very careful that anything we give Ukraine is only used in Ukraine, as widespread attacks on (pre-2014) Russian soil using NATO supplied hardware would almost certainly give Putin the ammunition (no pun intended) to rationalise/justify (at least with the Russian people) the use of tactical weapons against Ukraine.
 
You know its bad when even North Korea takes the opportunity to send their crap to you.
The fifty plus year old stuff coming from North Korea and appearing in the media is simply a façade.

Russia don't care about that junk, they care about the relatively new stuff arriving from North Korea which conveniently recently arrived there from China.
 
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The fifty plus year old stuff coming from North Korea and appearing in the media is simply a façade.

Russia don't care about that junk, they care about the relatively new stuff arriving from North Korea which conveniently recently arrived there from China.

Very interesting.
 
The fifty plus year old stuff coming from North Korea and appearing in the media is simply a façade.

Russia don't care about that junk, they care about the relatively new stuff arriving from North Korea which conveniently recently arrived there from China.

It would be so difficult to conceal the true source they may as well send them direct.
 
Russia has more than enough human resources to take 1100 losses per day, every day for 5 or 10 years (Putin's propaganda is constantly comparing the current war with WW2, in which USSR lost over 20 millions and still won). After the presidential "elections" next year 100% there will be a new mobilization. Maybe it's a good idea for Ukraine to start preparing for more massive Russian attacks across the front next year.
For a country so vast, Russia has a very small population, which was shrinking before the war and has a very low life expectancy for a developed country. In the long term this war is really going to hurt their demographics - I think Russia's shrinking population was one of the causes for this war, a quick way to add 40 million citizens to the population pyramid. It doesn't help that its best and brightest people get out of there as quickly as they can.

The west certainly won't tolerate WW2 style losses on frivolous wars anymore, the losses we took in Afghanistan are almost nothing compared to the world wars, but they were enough to make us leave even they they were sustainable losses. Maybe Russia can sustain 1100 losses per day, but will they if the result they want seems further away each day.
 
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