Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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SkyTerran said:
Turns out when a Russian prisoners dies in Ukraine his widow gets a lot of congratulations. She used to be a loser, the wife of a criminal, but now she's the widow of a hero. She gets 5 million rubles compensation from the federal government plus usually a few more from the local government. And a lot of other benefits.
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Is that 5 mil fixed or just todays value?

Husband: Hello, I'm calling from the battlefi-
Wife: You're still alive!?! Hurry up and die the Ruble is falling and inflation is rising!!


Colonel_Klinck said:
TBF 4 years of wages is probably pretty good if your husband was a criminal, likely a drunk and likely violent. Could be a win win for her.
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She's probably spam calling Kiev with updates on his location xD
 
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cheesyboy said:
Damn, if this summary is to be believed, could have ended the war pretty neatly but the warmongers, Boris included, wanted to put their foot on Russia's throat, whatever the cost to Ukraine
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This is bad :(

Had this come out at the time it would have caused problems for western support for Ukraine (especially in the USA) so it's understandable why they/Boris didn't announce it.

However it coming out 18 months later is going to cause a lot of damage to pro-Ukrainian sentiment (again especially in the USA) as it makes it look like they intended to deceive people, I wonder if all western leaders knew about it or if Zelensky/Boris kept them in the dark too.

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Okay I just watched the interview, TLDR: He says that Putin offered them a peace treaty in March 2022 that would have seen all Russian forces withdrawn from Ukraine (excluding Crimea ofc) in exchange for Ukraine signing an agreement with Russia/guarantors to remain neutral and not never NATO. They refused as they believed he would honour it only until he had rebuilt his forces and was better prepared for another invasion a few years later. The interviewer tries to push the theory that it was Boris Johnson who convinced them to fight on but he denies it.

So not as bad as some are spinning it, but still not going to go over well (especially with the US public).
 
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ubersonic said:
This is bad :(

Had this come out at the time it would have caused problems for western support for Ukraine (especially in the USA) so it's understandable why they/Boris didn't announce it.

However it coming out 18 months later is going to cause a lot of damage to pro-Ukrainian sentiment (again especially in the USA) as it makes it look like they intended to deceive people, I wonder if all western leaders knew about it or if Zelensky/Boris kept them in the dark too.

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Okay I just watched the interview, TLDR: He says that Putin offered them a peace treaty in March 2022 that would have seen all Russian forces withdrawn from Ukraine (excluding Crimea ofc) in exchange for Ukraine signing an agreement with Russia/guarantors to remain neutral and not never NATO. They refused as they believed he would honour it only until he had rebuilt his forces and was better prepared for another invasion a few years later. The interviewer tries to push the theory that it was Boris Johnson who convinced them to fight on but he denies it.

So not as bad as some are spinning it, but still not going to go over well (especially with the US public).
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WuT? Its not "bad", it makes no difference. Lay off the wacky backy!

It makes little difference regardless. Also I do remember when there were "talks" early in the conflict that these conditions were made public, and the decision to ignore them was also made public. Might not have been officially confirmed but I do remember these exact terms being leaked all parties will have been fully aware US/UK/Europe would be fully aware and likely made little impact on the aid that was supplied. If I remember correctly the impression at the time was that Russia were just stalling for time, and everytime this happen they would strike deeper into Ukraine.
 
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It looks like Russia's plan to rid Ukraine of bullets by throwing it's manpower into the path of machine gun nest around Avdiivka has hit a snag. Ukraine has counter attacked further north and taken high ground over looking the town of Horlivka which is a major supply centre for the Russian army. Ukraine now has have fire control on all routes coming south of that town, in response Russia has had to send it's reserves from Adiivka to reinforce that part of the line further up. Looking at the size of Horlivka I doubt that town will be changing hands anytime soon but Russia losing tactical positions is a fly in the ointment.
 
After making nigh on every Ukrainian despise Russia a peace of any sort is really just a ceasefire because Russia has categorically failed to stop Ukraine from opting into the Western mindshare... because they accelerated it, massively.
 
Looks like Ukraine has finally copied the shahid drones, something I thought they should do at the start of the war when they first turned up.

Lots of Russians claiming that they weren’t effective as 9 out of 10 were shot down…

Not understanding that’s how ever many missiles used away from the front, if Ukraine keeps up the saturation of none front targets Russia will either have to move air defence assets from the front or their ****** logistics will cause openings in the air defence protection coverage allowing for better use of non stealth missiles such as atacms etc
 
Thats all very old news.

It always amazes me that out of over 300mil people in the US, these are the clowns that they have chosen to represent their political parties... Oh yes I'm aware that were not in much better position, at least our leaders have a measurable IQ even if they dont use that for the betterment of the country.

Anyway back to the topic, is there any further information on the Ukrainian drone attack? I cant find much except contextless videos showing explosions claiming to be strikes in Russia.
 
steve45 said:
Thats all very old news.

It always amazes me that out of over 300mil people in the US, these are the clowns that they have chosen to represent their political parties... Oh yes I'm aware that were not in much better position, at least our leaders have a measurable IQ even if they dont use that for the betterment of the country.

Anyway back to the topic, is there any further information on the Ukrainian drone attack? I cant find much except contextless videos showing explosions claiming to be strikes in Russia.
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Reports say all drones at Moscow shot down. Other strikes caused damage to power infrastructure.

CNN reporting on drone strikes, including Moscow.


Reuters also reporting it
www.reuters.com

Russia says it thwarted Ukrainian drone and missile attack

Russia thwarted a Ukrainian attack on Russian regions involving at least 24 drones and two missiles, the Russian defence ministry said on Sunday.
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If Ukraine can get these one way attack drones out often enough it will cause real issues for Russia, as they'll probably have to close the skies to civilian traffic in the Moscow region, and keep active air defences there as well.
 
Grim5 said:
Ukranian drone attack has damaged electrical infrastructure in Donetsk, Mariupol, Tula and Moscow, all four cities have localised power outages
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At first glance this sounds like great news but then you remember that half of those targets are in Ukraine. This is the really sucky thing about being invaded, the enemy attacks your infrastructure and your citizens suffer, you attack their infrastructure and your citizens suffer :(
 
Sankari said:
It's OK everyone, Trump has explained his plan to resolve the Ukraine situation.
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It actually makes more sense if you read it backwards :cry:

"They're doing an amazing job"
"and we should be helping them more"
"and what we can do is far greater than what they or Russia can"
"and we don't rely on 44 year old jets"
"Hell our military is so awesome we wouldn't even need to use planes"


steve45 said:
It always amazes me that out of over 300mil people in the US, these are the clowns that they have chosen to represent their political parties... Oh yes I'm aware that were not in much better position, at least our leaders have a measurable IQ even if they dont use that for the betterment of the country.
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The age old biggest flaw with democracy and letting the people as a whole choose things, is that approximately half the people are below average intelligence.


HungryHippos said:
they'll probably have to close the skies to civilian traffic in the Moscow region, and keep active air defences there as well.
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If they're putting Russian air defence systems there they will have to close the skies to civilian airliners for sure :P
 
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I was watching the latest preun video and it highlighted some interesting things about the Dnipro crossings and the area in general.

The North Bank is quite well developed due to the city of Kherson, it has rail and road links (when it’s not snowing) which allows for the transportation of equipment. The area itself is also higher than the south bank, given high ground to Ukraine for a good command of the area.

South bank in comparison is quite undeveloped and is at the tail end of the Russian supply network making it harder to supply.

Right now it just seems like a good area for the Ukrainians to whittle away at the Russian and add to the strain to their supply network. Now if the Russian were to pull back, it could ask some difficult questions of the Ukrainians while helping their supply of their own units in the area. If Ukraine were to cross and go on the attack, the poor infrastructure could become a hindrance leading to an over extension and from then who knows what. I guess what I’m getting at it shows Russia is holding onto all the territory it has captured regardless of importance or strategic value.
 
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