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I know everyone in here wants Ukraine to come through this as I do but realistically what chance have they really got? Western aid drying up, US not providing anymore indefinitely, they cant survive without the Wests help and that's now about finished by all accounts. Where does it all go from here?
 
I know everyone in here wants Ukraine to come through this as I do but realistically what chance have they really got? Western aid drying up, US not providing anymore indefinitely, they cant survive without the Wests help and that's now about finished by all accounts. Where does it all go from here?

People will find a way..
 
I know everyone in here wants Ukraine to come through this as I do but realistically what chance have they really got? Western aid drying up, US not providing anymore indefinitely, they cant survive without the Wests help and that's now about finished by all accounts. Where does it all go from here?
Any links to the ***** you have just posted
 
Was thinking hypothetically about possible outcomes from this war, would the UK not be an ideal target for Russia if they wanted to make a statement and go all or nothing? Nuke the hell out of the UK, its got a natural barrier around it so rest of Europe does not get fallout so much, and scare the rest of the world into submission? If that happened would that be world war 3 or would the likes of the US shy away from all out war? Would our nuclear deterrent be enough to prevent that or would the retaliation from our subs be like a pin ***** to Russia? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm talking rubbish but I'm just putting the questions out there to see what people think.
 
Any links to the ***** you have just posted
Really? You have to go and throw insults around because I've asked a question? Why?


There is one, plenty of others you can find yourself about western aid drying up, I dont need to do it for you and cut out the insults, its uncalled for.
 
Was thinking hypothetically about possible outcomes from this war, would the UK not be an ideal target for Russia if they wanted to make a statement and go all or nothing? Nuke the hell out of the UK, its got a natural barrier around it so rest of Europe does not get fallout so much, and scare the rest of the world into submission? If that happened would that be world war 3 or would the likes of the US shy away from all out war? Would our nuclear deterrent be enough to prevent that or would the retaliation from our subs be like a pin ***** to Russia? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm talking rubbish but I'm just putting the questions out there to see what people think.

You are talking complete rubbish. If Russia nukes the UK, there would be a massive nuclear world war.

The rest of the world isn't just going to shrug it's soldiers and not retaliate.

The only statement that Russia would make by nuking the UK is to say it wants to be completely annihilated.
 
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Was thinking hypothetically about possible outcomes from this war, would the UK not be an ideal target for Russia if they wanted to make a statement and go all or nothing? Nuke the hell out of the UK, its got a natural barrier around it so rest of Europe does not get fallout so much, and scare the rest of the world into submission? If that happened would that be world war 3 or would the likes of the US shy away from all out war? Would our nuclear deterrent be enough to prevent that or would the retaliation from our subs be like a pin ***** to Russia? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm talking rubbish but I'm just putting the questions out there to see what people think.

Trident says hi.
 
Was thinking hypothetically about possible outcomes from this war, would the UK not be an ideal target for Russia if they wanted to make a statement and go all or nothing? Nuke the hell out of the UK, its got a natural barrier around it so rest of Europe does not get fallout so much, and scare the rest of the world into submission? If that happened would that be world war 3 or would the likes of the US shy away from all out war? Would our nuclear deterrent be enough to prevent that or would the retaliation from our subs be like a pin ***** to Russia? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm talking rubbish but I'm just putting the questions out there to see what people think.

Pinprick ? Pretty sure all major Russian cities would be toast from our strikes alone.

Waste of time nuking anything else as it's already post apocalyptic outside a couple of cities
 
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I think the firefighters can save that ship if they hurry.

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Given the scale of that secondary detonation, some of them might still be flying.

From sailer to cosmonaut.

Was thinking hypothetically about possible outcomes from this war, would the UK not be an ideal target for Russia if they wanted to make a statement and go all or nothing? Nuke the hell out of the UK, its got a natural barrier around it so rest of Europe does not get fallout so much, and scare the rest of the world into submission? If that happened would that be world war 3 or would the likes of the US shy away from all out war? Would our nuclear deterrent be enough to prevent that or would the retaliation from our subs be like a pin ***** to Russia? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm talking rubbish but I'm just putting the questions out there to see what people think.

The statement would be Vladolf turning Russia into a nuclear wasteland, every inch of Russia worth living in would be charred rubble. Not to mention Russia would find itself toilet-less again and I honestly don’t think Russia would risk losing all their recently acquired washing machines.
 
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I know everyone in here wants Ukraine to come through this as I do but realistically what chance have they really got? Western aid drying up, US not providing anymore indefinitely, they cant survive without the Wests help and that's now about finished by all accounts. Where does it all go from here?

I have to say that I think Ukraine will lose. Russia is a bigger country, with far greater resources. The West is politically confused at the moment, the people divided, and will lose interest.

It is a huge shame, to say the least. You know, the problem with the West these days is that it has lost focus. America is tearing itself apart and Europe, for decades, has buried its head in the sand and pretended that another major war is out of the question.

Democracy is backfiring in the West. We are divided, and unfortunately it only takes a very small minority to derail any efforts to maintain security and defence. Of course, no one wants war, but whether we like it or not, war happens. And we are not prepared at all.

So many Americans just want to close their borders and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. That's not a sign of a great country, it is the sign of an empire in decline. Sooner or later the rest of the world will come knocking.
 
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I have to say that I think Ukraine will lose. Russia is a bigger country, with far greater resources. The West is politically confused at the moment, the people divided, and will lose interest.

It is a huge shame, to say the least. You know, the problem with the West these days is that it has lost focus. America is tearing itself apart and Europe, for decades, has buried its head in the sand and pretended that another major war is out of the question.

Democracy is backfiring in the West. We are divided, and unfortunately it only takes a very small minority to derail any efforts to maintain security and defence. Of course, no one wants war, but whether we like it or not, war happens. And we are not prepared at all.

So many Americans just want to close their borders and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist. That's not a sign of a great country, it is the sign of an empire in decline. Sooner or later the rest of the world will come knocking.

Europe is stepping up and I’m hearing rather rapidly. Also other nations outside of Europe have taken notice. Help is on the way for the Ukrainians.
 
Was thinking hypothetically about possible outcomes from this war, would the UK not be an ideal target for Russia if they wanted to make a statement and go all or nothing? Nuke the hell out of the UK, its got a natural barrier around it so rest of Europe does not get fallout so much, and scare the rest of the world into submission? If that happened would that be world war 3 or would the likes of the US shy away from all out war? Would our nuclear deterrent be enough to prevent that or would the retaliation from our subs be like a pin ***** to Russia? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm talking rubbish but I'm just putting the questions out there to see what people think.
Luckily we have our own independent nuclear deterrent with commands for use if the UK is wiped out. They are a fraction of what Russia has. But they are enough to turn several Russia cities to ash. If we are nuked then I fully support retaliatory strikes. We have to be prepared to do that otherwise they are not a deterrent. As I've always said to people who suggest they are a waste of money and we will never use them, those weapons are in use 365 days a year. We are using them right now (as a deterrent). Think carefully if anyone is considering voting for any party that would want to remove them unilaterally.
 
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Europe is stepping up and I’m hearing rather rapidly. Also other nations outside of Europe have taken notice. Help is on the way for the Ukrainians.

This, the UK continues training and is committed to resupply as part of the european effort. It would be a tremendous pity to let Russia gain any advantage out if this and also extremely dangerous.
 
Was thinking hypothetically about possible outcomes from this war, would the UK not be an ideal target for Russia if they wanted to make a statement and go all or nothing? Nuke the hell out of the UK, its got a natural barrier around it so rest of Europe does not get fallout so much, and scare the rest of the world into submission? If that happened would that be world war 3 or would the likes of the US shy away from all out war? Would our nuclear deterrent be enough to prevent that or would the retaliation from our subs be like a pin ***** to Russia? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm talking rubbish but I'm just putting the questions out there to see what people think.

I think you missed the point.

If someone uses a nuke then the fallout drifts resulting in a indirect strike on the shores and seas of europe.

Hypothetically, china will be distancing themselves. Just blowing up (even intercepting) a re-entry vehicle results in radiation cloud..

I suspect that sense would prevail before the durma and russia end up as glass. Probably china would step in to prevent their customers from being turned to dust..

I would suspect that russia’s oil and gas would be part of a first strike. Cutting off any future economic recovery and essentially removing any need of russia by china.
 
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