Soldato
I am not convinced when it comes to you on this one.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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I am not convinced when it comes to you on this one.
Caporegime
On par with one of my ramblings for sure
I dunno what to say. Yes, total war is ******* ****. I don't wanna go back over cluster bombs. It's been done to death.
Couldn't agree more. Dunno what else to add...
Shame it evolved to this. 2 armies squaring off on a field was better for sure.
Caporegime
Jesus wept....
I save that for really stupid things.
Honestly lol
I literally live in a likely warzone.
More likely a nuclear crater or tactically flooded river valley if the enemy wanted to blow the dams upstream.
That's what I'd do.
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Soldato
Hey just calling it like I see it. Would you prefer I lie and say I think you're being genuine?
I can if you want.
Now go eat that chicken, it isn't going to eat itself.
I can if you want.
Now go eat that chicken, it isn't going to eat itself.
Caporegime
Lol cheers.
See you around if you're unlucky.
See you around
if you're unlucky.
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Soldato
I don't think anyone disagrees with this.
That doesn't mean we can't have a discussion on how **** war is for almost everyone involved.
Let's not forget Russian troops and Russia itself and it's population have dehumanised themselves with no western propaganda required.
Soldato
You can, but I don't think anyone is running around pretending it's not?
Not sure what purpose that serves, a lot of us posting here have been through all of this many times over, you don't seem to frequent this thread so it may be new to you for discussing that type of thing, but it's not new to most of us.
If you polled people here I think vast majority would tick the war is terrible box.
Soldato
War is hell. Soldier will keep firing into the body of a solider to make sure they are dead, a dead solider is no threat and a dead or almost dead solider after 4 grenades is no threat to Ukrainian soldiers in the future. I would also imagine they don't want to bring any ordinance back with them from a safety pov so if there are no other targets in battery range then it has to be dropped somewhere.
All these drones have done is show us all just how barbaric war is. No you wouldn't do it to a dog (though many would as humans can be ******* horrible to animals for fun) but that dog isn't invading your country.
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Soldato
I've been reading the thread since it was started, haven't posted in it much though... Wonder why that is?
Soldato
I've been reading the thread since it was started, haven't posted in it much though... Wonder why that is?
Well if you have no idea why you haven't posted much I am not sure what hope the rest of us have of answering your question, to be openly honest.
But based on today I think I speak for many in thanking you for not posting much previously.
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Soldato
Well if you have no idea why you haven't posted much I am not sure what hope the rest of us have of answering your question, to be openly honest.
But based on today I think I speak for many in thanking you for not posting much previously.
Well I was hoping the self appointed thread police would tell me, since they seem so intent on telling everyone what to think about everything else
Soldato
My understanding of the rules with medivacs is the medical staff have to be clearly marked as such and be non combatants, so no weapons. Otherwise they are fair game, maybe not the poor person on the stretch but the people carrying him are. Then the enemy has 3 or 4 injured to deal with rather than 1. War is hell and Russia is making this war happen.
I think very few Brits would fancy life in a bunker cowering from an evil little man.
We definitely do need to start upping our military spending along with increased sanctions on Russians and nations supporting Russia. We needed to before Vladolf decided to go full retard and now with the world facing threats from Russia until at least 2036 it’s probably time for all sensible nations to get its own, along with its allies defence and deterrent capabilities in order.
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It’s always funny reading people with no combat experience debating on the rights and wrongs of warfare.
How is a drone dropped munition different from targeting an area with a mortar or grenade launcher? Bar the accuracy.
If a combatant can move then he can fight, lots of dead soldiers out there that fought with morals or honour.
War is organised murder, it’s about killing the other guy before he can kill you.
Oh and the war crime of targeting medical staff, is only if they are clearly labelled as such. (Point of thought Russia never signed up for the latest round of laws)
So troops carrying other injured troops are a legitimate target, it’s why we switched from the 7.62mm to the 5.56mm, one is more likely to kill whilst the other is likely to incapacitate dragging more targets into a kill zone.
Drones are an effective counter infantry and armour weapon, with beyond the horizon capability, the west is very far behind in this technology and defences against it.
Plus the moral destruction caused by it is amazing.
Don’t bring civilian mentality into total warfare, you need to be the bigger ******* to win. Ukraine should be targeting the Russian infrastructure (substations, gas infrastructure and water) let the Russian public freeze and put pressure on putins dictatorship
How is a drone dropped munition different from targeting an area with a mortar or grenade launcher? Bar the accuracy.
If a combatant can move then he can fight, lots of dead soldiers out there that fought with morals or honour.
War is organised murder, it’s about killing the other guy before he can kill you.
Oh and the war crime of targeting medical staff, is only if they are clearly labelled as such. (Point of thought Russia never signed up for the latest round of laws)
So troops carrying other injured troops are a legitimate target, it’s why we switched from the 7.62mm to the 5.56mm, one is more likely to kill whilst the other is likely to incapacitate dragging more targets into a kill zone.
Drones are an effective counter infantry and armour weapon, with beyond the horizon capability, the west is very far behind in this technology and defences against it.
Plus the moral destruction caused by it is amazing.
Don’t bring civilian mentality into total warfare, you need to be the bigger ******* to win. Ukraine should be targeting the Russian infrastructure (substations, gas infrastructure and water) let the Russian public freeze and put pressure on putins dictatorship
Soldato
You honestly think Russia spends large somes of cash on soldier wellbeing and healthcare? A couple of band aids and a few days in hospital and Pavel gets sent back to the frontline. If it's very serious then maybe an amputation and he might get sent back home.
A lot of injured Russians are just left in their bunkers to die, if their brainwashed they end up taking their own life's because they were told the Ukrainians will torture them. If thier not they stay put and hope to get picked up by the Ukrainians.
Lol, what?
You are aware the Queen Elisabeth aircraft carrier radar was developed with drones, in the thousands, as small as tennis balls in mind? That's been a long time in R&D.
Yes accurate weapons are demoralising - they's why the west use them as the ROI is high (cruise missiles were the first long distance drones used for over 20 years). Russia started the war with the artillery obliteration but soon found that its lost its effectiveness as a standalone tool.
So I don't think your spin has a particularly valid point.
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To be honest I agree with him. This war is evolving really fast - from dropping vog’s(syrian war trick) to flying thousands of fpv up to 20km deep.
If certain system not proven in Ukraine nowadays it’s only good on paper. Germans know.
Nato countries have massive advantage over folks wearing flip-flops, but without air superiority I would like to see their counter-offensive in the south.
Yeah, forgot to add the cost. Western countries tend to make everything high quality, complicated and expensive, but with both sides possessing nukes modern war became a mix of ww1 and ww2. Need cheap, effective solutions in enormous quantities.
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