Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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The Boeing, it has a toilet and isn’t heading for Russia anytime soon.
Soldato
I genuinely doubted that this happened when I seen the initial reports. However, the more info that comes out the more it seems it actually happened. Is there any confirmation of what hit it? I see Ukraine are claiming the took it down but I cant help but think that its just as likely they Russia mistakenly took their own aircraft out the sky.
Soldato
Quite afew claims of what looks like shrapnel from a potential to be the plane coming out
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Does Sweden know something we haven't been told?
Especially now we have NATO doing an exercise for a Russian invasion;
I think Russia would only go beyond Ukraine if a NATO country came into direct conflict with Russia. Is this the plan, and we're pre-emptively preparing for it?
Swedish alarm after defence chiefs' war warning
A warning to Swedes to prepare for war from two top defence officials prompts accusations of alarmism.
www.bbc.co.uk
Especially now we have NATO doing an exercise for a Russian invasion;
I think Russia would only go beyond Ukraine if a NATO country came into direct conflict with Russia. Is this the plan, and we're pre-emptively preparing for it?
Associate
At first I thought it was a Russian self-own with an S300 friendly-fire but now seeing the Ukranian twitter post of the flight radar showing it's distance from the coast and the damage on that II-22, my money is on another Ukranian Patriot ambush @ extreme range.
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Soldato
I wouldnt be too concerned. We have exercised and planned for that eventuality for years. These types of exercise and the publicity around it are just for deterrence sake.Does Sweden know something we haven't been told?
Swedish alarm after defence chiefs' war warning
A warning to Swedes to prepare for war from two top defence officials prompts accusations of alarmism.www.bbc.co.uk
Especially now we have NATO doing an exercise for a Russian invasion;
I think Russia would only go beyond Ukraine if a NATO country came into direct conflict with Russia. Is this the plan, and we're pre-emptively preparing for it?
We do have contingency plans to deal with a situation where Russia attack along the EFP (Baltic states/Poland). You have to plan for the worst and hope for the best in these situations.
However no, I wouldnt start worrying just yet! I think this is just a situation where they are stressing the need to be prepared. Reality is we dont know how this conflict will end or what the fallout will be (Figurative not literal hopefully).
Soldato
If it was Patriot, I'd be very surprised. They would have to be very brave to commit such an important weapon system so close to the front.
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Radio intercepts from the Il-22 was asking for fire trucks and ambulances being ready.
Seeing the damage, it's just occured to me that it wasn't just the tailplane that got swiss-cheesed but some of the crew also
Seeing the damage, it's just occured to me that it wasn't just the tailplane that got swiss-cheesed but some of the crew also
Does Sweden know something we haven't been told?
Swedish alarm after defence chiefs' war warning
A warning to Swedes to prepare for war from two top defence officials prompts accusations of alarmism.www.bbc.co.uk
Especially now we have NATO doing an exercise for a Russian invasion;
I think Russia would only go beyond Ukraine if a NATO country came into direct conflict with Russia. Is this the plan, and we're pre-emptively preparing for it?
I don't think so. Life probably feels different if you live in Sweden, they have a small population, they're connected by land to Russia, and they have no nuclear weapons. I don't think NATO Generals have any plan to attack Russian forces directly because the consequences of escalation are just too severe.
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Soldato
Wonder if the plane was flying a predictable path and time, which made catching it somewhere at the right moment easy.
Wouldn't surprise me, if they didn't change up where it went and when.
Wouldn't surprise me, if they didn't change up where it went and when.
Il-22 damage, well the rear tail fin/ fuselage
Edit, possibly, some seem to think it's not an Il-22
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Does Sweden know something we haven't been told?
Swedish alarm after defence chiefs' war warning
A warning to Swedes to prepare for war from two top defence officials prompts accusations of alarmism.www.bbc.co.uk
Especially now we have NATO doing an exercise for a Russian invasion;
I think Russia would only go beyond Ukraine if a NATO country came into direct conflict with Russia. Is this the plan, and we're pre-emptively preparing for it?
Probably something which is concerning them - Russia has "leaked" plans to invade Gotland and conducted visits by large groups from intelligence agencies posing as tourists, various "secret" bases found around the region where Russian linked people have bought land/islands and installed infrastructure like helipads, etc. which could be used to support a military campaign and so on and those higher up think they should be much more prepared just in case - unfortunately in many countries the complacency and so on tips the balance at the wrong way.
I mentioned earlier the il-22 was a prototype from the 1940s, this was probs a Tu-22M
Does Sweden know something we haven't been told?
Swedish alarm after defence chiefs' war warning
A warning to Swedes to prepare for war from two top defence officials prompts accusations of alarmism.www.bbc.co.uk
Especially now we have NATO doing an exercise for a Russian invasion;
I think Russia would only go beyond Ukraine if a NATO country came into direct conflict with Russia. Is this the plan, and we're pre-emptively preparing for it?
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