Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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They also mass mutinied and had to exit ww1 to have a revolution, in part because conditions were so bad.

You can’t read too much into history.

Russians of today and for many many years now seem to much more inclined to go along with it, I'm not sure what point things would have to get to to be so bad they'd push back substantially.
 
Video of another failed Russian armoured assault, burning ruskie tanks/ifv everywhere, looks to be around 20 minimum.

Mentality of the orca to watch the previous waves cut down then go and do the same in this day and age is boggling.
The fact is for the time being and probably all of 2024 at the very least, Russia has enough metal in reserve that it can keep up these suicidal assaults. Even if a lot of it is rusty and in bad condition they can restore it far quicker then they can build new tanks, APC’s and IFV’s.

If you a neutral observer what will be interesting is watching how both sides adapt to each others tactics. At the moment Ukraine has substituted the lack the artillery shells with FPV drones, the ball is now in Russia’s court to see how they respond to this threat.
 
Russians of today and for many many years now seem to much more inclined to go along with it, I'm not sure what point things would have to get to to be so bad they'd push back substantially.

Many Russians view the Soviet Union with rose tinted spectacles, in the same way some Brits view the empire as the glory days of this country. (whereas it was rather grim for the vast majority of people). Their view of the glory days of Russia is far far more prevalent, however. Also, most Russians are very poorly educated and fed on a diet of propaganda. You don't have to go far outside the main cities to travel back in time a hundred years.
 
It was that mentality that pushed, arguably, the most formidable army in the world from shelling distance of Moscow all the way to Berlin in WW2.

The Russian mentality has not really changed since those times. They can take casualty numbers unimaginable to western thinking without blinking. Underestimate them at your peril.

That only happened because the allies helped them and starting flanking the Germans. Otherwise they would have been defeated.

Russia was being pushed back very quickly. The only thing really slowing the Germans down was weather.

I know Russians, many of them don't like Putin but feel powerless to do anything. If they speak up they are as good as dead. It's a different mentality to here, where a leader like Putin would cause a revolt long before they could turn the place in to a dictatorship.
 
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Many Russians view the Soviet Union with rose tinted spectacles, in the same way some Brits view the empire as the glory days of this country. (whereas it was rather grim for the vast majority of people). Their view of the glory days of Russia is far far more prevalent, however. Also, most Russians are very poorly educated and fed on a diet of propaganda. You don't have to go far outside the main cities to travel back in time a hundred years.

I've watched a fair bit on YT covering Russia over the years from people who've visited like Bald and Bankrupt, stuff like Garage 54 and people who live there from random vloggers and musicians, etc. so seen a fair bit.
 
That only happened because the allies helped them and starting flanking the Germans. Otherwise they would have been defeated.

Russia was being pushed back very quickly. The only thing really slowing the Germans down was weather.

I know Russians, many of them don't like Putin but feel powerless to do anything. If they speak up they are as good as dead. It's a different mentality to here, where a leader like Putin would cause a revolt long before they could turn the place in to a dictatorship.

The allies provided the soviet union with significant amounts of vital supplies during WWII, but I understood that they were the ones doing the actual fighting and started pushing back the Germans at Stalingrad etc. Stalin himself was pressing them to open a second front for a long time before the allies actually invaded southern Europe in summer 1943 and northern Europe in summer 1944.
 
The allies provided the soviet union with significant amounts of vital supplies during WWII, but I understood that they were the ones doing the actual fighting and started pushing back the Germans at Stalingrad etc. Stalin himself was pressing them to open a second front for a long time before the allies actually invaded southern Europe in summer 1943 and northern Europe in summer 1944.

I think the allies opened a new Eastern front after France got liberated
 
Did the Russian's help with the battle of the Atlantic, which lasted for 4 year and is the only reason anything got to Russia?
 
The battle of Stalingrad started in 1942 and ended (I think) in February 1943. The allies didn't liberate most of France until something like September 1944

Stalingrad was a major victory. But the Axis had more captured at Tunis (largely by British/commonwealth forces - the Americans didn't have more forces in the European theatre until late 1944) than were encircled and killed/captured at Stalingrad.

Not denigrating the tremendous Soviet losses in WWII, but the view that they largely won it on their own is just as wrong as the view that we did (we did avoid losing it at a key juncture though).
 
Given we helped the Russians and by extension were allies (sort of) during the war its frankly tragic that a peace between us couldn’t be nurtured and maintained
 
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The latest, and now deadly, attacks on US positions in Middle East are likely to lead to an unavoidable refocusing of US (and UK) attention to Ukraine's detriment. Convenient for Russia.

Hard to believe US has the appetite to fully engage Iran. More likely, under Trump at least, would be greater withdrawal from Middle East - can't attack what's not there.

The US is blaming 'Iran backed militia groups operating in Iraq and Syria'.

So Iran is getting specifically fingered for this? Iran is now a legitimate target as they provided the weapons and funding?

Where does that leave Russia? Many thousands have been killed by US backed folk operating in Ukraine. The logic that says Iran is a legitimate target following this attack also suggests the US (and UK) is legitimate target for Russia. Does the US and UK administrations accept that they are legitimate Russian targets?
 
The USA is more than capable of fighting on two fronts. Having pesky Iran kick up a a medium sized fire is going to do nothing and the EU can handle Russia easily.

I wouldn't be surprised if 12 stealth bombers are en-route right now tbh.
 
The latest, and now deadly, attacks on US positions in Middle East are likely to lead to an unavoidable refocusing of US (and UK) attention to Ukraine's detriment. Convenient for Russia.

Hard to believe US has the appetite to fully engage Iran. More likely, under Trump at least, would be greater withdrawal from Middle East - can't attack what's not there.

The US is blaming 'Iran backed militia groups operating in Iraq and Syria'.

So Iran is getting specifically fingered for this? Iran is now a legitimate target as they provided the weapons and funding?

Where does that leave Russia? Many thousands have been killed by US backed folk operating in Ukraine. The logic that says Iran is a legitimate target following this attack also suggests the US (and UK) is legitimate target for Russia. Does the US and UK administrations accept that they are legitimate Russian targets?


Last time I checked Russia was already using wmds on British soil, or as you would probably put it ' spire watching '
 
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