Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Roar87 said:
That was perhaps their opinion. They decided to continue fighting a war to avoid the risk of Russia going back on their agreement and er, fighting a war...? Which they are doing anyway. That logic makes no sense to me. They carried on fighting because they expected to win, which they were clearly poorly advised about.



Yeah I just don't agree, Russia have plainly stated their demands, both before and during the war, which is primarily around Ukraine joining NATO.



Ukraine had this over the summer and barely made any progress. The only way they could win is if the US Army came and fought this war for them.
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Russia haven’t stated anything clearly. First Vladolf wasn’t invading, then he was. The mission was first to remove Nazi, then its teaching Russian in schools, then it wasn’t. Next up its NATO expansion, then it’s not NATO, it’s a proxy with the US. Then it’s the UK, Germany, Poland, France.

Putini declared war on Ukrainians for embarking on its campaign of ending Russian influence and the financial and moral corruption that comes with Putin.

Vladolf can’t stand to see a free and prosperous Ukraine, because it exposes the lies and cuts through the Kremlin propaganda.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Does it? No you can't have a situation with no law and order at all but politicians and rich industrialists robbing the state is compatible with capitalism.
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No, it isn't. Capitalism needs the rule of law. An investor needs to know that their investment - their capital - will not be stolen. They need to know that contracts will be honoured. Otherwise they invest elsewhere.
 
Quartz said:
No, it isn't. Capitalism needs the rule of law. An investor needs to know that their investment - their capital - will not be stolen. They need to know that contracts will be honoured. Otherwise they invest elsewhere.
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funny because there were no shortage of companies that invested in Russia before the invasion, all the big US companies were there. They just accept a certain amount of corruption, its the price of doing business there.
 
Quartz said:
Actually, no it isn't.
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Yes it is. Capitalism is still operating perfectly well in Russia, despite the kleptocracy.

Quartz said:
Capitalism depends upon the rule of law.
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No. Capitalism works with or without the rule of law (although obviously it works best with the rule of law) but you can still buy and sell things in the midst of anarchy. Just ask Ethiopia.

Colonel_Klinck said:
funny because there were no shortage of companies that invested in Russia before the invasion, all the big US companies were there. They just accept a certain amount of corruption, its the price of doing business there.
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Exactly. Capitalism is very accommodating, it doesn't care how badly the country is run. It'll still work. Companies learn to live with corruption, factor it into their business model, and reap the benefits it brings them.
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
He either didn't or he simply heard what he wanted to hear. Its amazing how he can type that Putin doesn't want all of Ukraine when that is exactly what he tried to do in the first week but they failed. If Ukraine put down their arms now Putin would push to Kiev and take the whole country. Roar is a text book example of why propaganda, in this case Russian propaganda, works, he's bought it hook line and sinker.
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Hook, line, sinker, rod, and copy of angling times ;)
Thats how far down the accepting Putin speak he is
 
StriderX said:
Europe is so naive about it's Russian spies it's insane, we need have a zero-tolerance approach or we'll find ourselves wondering why our electrical/gas systems suddenly explode.
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Some parts are naive, some parts don't care.

We still haven't seen the Russian report that was meant to be released years ago in anything other than a massively redacted version after legal action, instead we got a Russian oligarch in the HOL despite the civil service and security services IIRC warning against it.
 
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Those 3 Himars strikes on grouped Russia soldiers are crazy. Why are a large groups huddling together like that right out in the open? That drone operator must have been creaming his pants when he heard there were Himars tungsten rain in range.
 
T
Efour said:
Do they ever test detonate a nuclear warhead? I don't know much about the subject, probably easier for me to read up but, I assume when they designed trident the warheads were aso designed for the missile or were they from an earlier design... Lots of questions. All a bit macabre a discussion probably:p
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Not any more since the test ban treaty.


This drove/drives a lot of super computer research to simulate detonations and the national ignition laboratory with all the lasers for fusion is for weapons simulation, not energy
 
Quartz said:
No, it isn't. Capitalism needs the rule of law. An investor needs to know that their investment - their capital - will not be stolen. They need to know that contracts will be honoured. Otherwise they invest elsewhere.
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no, in capitalism investors simply want a positive ROI where expected rewards are higher than risks, but risks are acceptable. Otherwise no one would invest in the stock market
 
Western Intelligence "From all the information we receive we think Putins mission is still to take all of Ukraine"

www.independent.co.uk

Putin’s mission remains to fully conquer Ukraine, Western officials say

Western officials have issued a fresh assessment on Vladimir Putin’s goals with Russia holding greater numbers in weaponry and soldiers
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

Roar - definitely no sign of Western intelligence - 87 "Russia has never wanted to take all of Ukraine, I think that cuz Vlad said so"

Hmm, who to believe...
 
Roar87 said:
lol Boris wanting $1m to do an interview with Tucker after calling him out, basically doesn't want to be challenged on anything
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The same Tucker who Putin was critical of for not asking challenging questions? :cry:

Boris has spent his political career dodging actually answering difficult questions when put to him... in fact it has become something of a Tory speciality.
 
Roar87 said:
lol Boris wanting $1m to do an interview with Tucker after calling him out, basically doesn't want to be challenged on anything

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Why would Boris, who is no longer a public servant, give a free interview to a US journalist?

Just think about that for a while. What does Boris have to gain in the slightest from having an interview with him? If Tucker is serious then he'll pay it.
 
ci_newman said:
Why would Boris, who is no longer a public servant, give a free interview to a US journalist?

Just think about that for a while. What does Boris have to gain in the slightest from having an interview with him? If Tucker is serious then he'll pay it.
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I mean 1 million is cheap vs the $700m fox spent paying tuckers lawsuits.
 
Roar87 said:
lol Boris wanting $1m to do an interview with Tucker after calling him out, basically doesn't want to be challenged on anything

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Zero time for Boris, he is corrupt, a professional liar and everything is about him but then Tucker is also a professional liar. As cj newman said why would a private citizen do an interview with Tucker for free? Boris has at least 10 children to feed doesn't he? And who wants to watch 2 liars lying for 2 hours anyway.
 
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Rroff said:
The same Tucker who Putin was critical of for not asking challenging questions? :cry:

Boris has spent his political career dodging actually answering difficult questions when put to him... in fact it has become something of a Tory speciality.
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Like labour isn't any different? Lol.
 
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