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adam cool dude said:
Latvia post USSR he is not that old but Latvia does have a huge Russian presence. A lot of Russians go on holiday there. Generally I have found they are the complete opposite to Lithuania who distinguish themselves as Lithuanian which is of no surprise as they were the first state to declare independence. My wife of 13 years is Lithuanian so have seen a lot of this first hand and even though my pool is small it is consistent.

I can guarantee Latvia and Estonia will be next if this Ukraine thing goes ahead.
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Estonia has been a NATO member for almost 20 years, so I don't think Estonia is going anywhere unless Putin is really serious about going to War with NATO.
 
Dem2k said:
I mean, he's talking to them in Russian, there is an unconscious bias there to start with just by communicating in the language. I do wonder if it's just a case of rose-tinted glasses. Everyone I know of at a certain age looks back at their own past fondly, remembering how things were better back then. To me, it's just a human condition, not necessary accurate to measure.
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Effectively Brexit goggles in the UK.
 
steve45 said:
Not likely, unless Russia wants to go straight heads up against the West. We have stacked those countries with NATO Hardware and manpower on constant rotation.

There is a wall of NATO from Estonia down to Poland, they were quick enough to get on the bandwagon whilst Russia was ill equipped to do anything about it. Had Ukraine not backed out due to Russian leaning president at the beginning of the last decade, they may have been in the same situation as their northern neighbours.
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They might try it. I'd love to sit here confident that Ukraine is the only place war takes place.

But with someone like putin and the weak West you never know! He might, might just be crazy enough to do it.

I don't know what I would do if I was a leader in the west. I'd want Russia to suffer. But how much damage is it going to do? How do you actually hurt Russia enough to make putin think about it? I don't think the west can.

Which I guess means standing firm no matter what comes.
 
turbot1984 said:
Boris saying he will now root out all the dodgy Russian oligarch's loot in the UK .... so without this invasion it was all fine? FFS, no wonder Putin takes the p*ss.
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They don't care about it because they love their donations and their money keeps helps keep the money trough full for their rich mates in London. The whole system is corrupt of **** :mad:
 
It's looking worrying. We work with a bunch of Ukrainians and I genuinely don't know how to broach the subject with them. What can you say?!
 
I didn't know for sure finland wasn't in nato.

So if you were living in Eastern Europe right now would you rather be..

In Estonia, a NATO country but a Russia target
Or
Finland, a Non NATO country but probably (?) not a Russia target.

Because that kind of brings it home about how much confidence you'd have in NATO at a personal level
 
413x said:
I didn't know for sure finland wasn't in nato.

So if you were living in Eastern Europe right now would you rather be..

In Estonia, a NATO country but a Russia target
Or
Finland, a Non NATO country but probably (?) not a Russia target.

Because that kind of brings it home about how much confidence you'd have in NATO at a personal level
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Finland have continually invested in their military (unlike sweden) due to the on-going 'threats' from Russia regarding NATO countries in the baltic region.
 
sadly west has allowed this to happen, its weak, china is watching on keenly as if the west goes weak again taiwan will be next country invaded, gone are the days of draw line in the sand, aka the cuban missile crisis. now its lets talk about it and maybe come up with some soft sanctions
 
413x said:
They might try it. I'd love to sit here confident that Ukraine is the only place war takes place.

But with someone like putin and the weak West you never know! He might, might just be crazy enough to do it.

I don't know what I would do if I was a leader in the west. I'd want Russia to suffer. But how much damage is it going to do? How do you actually hurt Russia enough to make putin think about it? I don't think the west can.

Which I guess means standing firm no matter what comes.
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He'll pick fights he can win, he's not stupid. An actual military assault on a NATO country would end with Russia on its knees or no inhabitable world left. Dont under-estimate NATO, just because it hasnt shown its teeth this time.
I'd be more concerned if I were some other ex-soviet country like Georgia, or a country that actually has proper valuable resources like Azerbaijan.
 
MCFC_ANDY said:
sadly west has allowed this to happen, its weak, china is watching on keenly as if the west goes weak again taiwan will be next country invaded, gone are the days of draw line in the sand, aka the cuban missile crisis. now its lets talk about it and maybe come up with some soft sanctions
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Its ok China has said they aren't going to invade Taiwan, so we can ignore them and focus entirely on Russia. I'm sure we can trust them :rolleyes::p

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/23/safe-invasion-china-tells-taiwan/
 
Mr Jack said:
I think there's a good chance that Putin has actually lost it. I don't think he is behaving rationally any more.
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That speech is what gets me. It didn't seem like old putin. Hopefully if this was the case someone would step in.
 
Russia can't win a against NATO end of story. Everyone says it's a toothless and pointless but once that beast is released its only going two ways. Nukes or Russia sent back with its tail between it's legs with even more land lost. Before then Putin will be gone via a inside job. The whole country is Living on past glory and has been since 1932.
 
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