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The UK gets a third of its gas from Norway, so there might be competition for that in future e.g. if it get re-routed via Denmark and Germany to make up for Nord Stream 2.

That Eggborough power station that was demolished last year, could have been useful...
 
BowdonUK said:
We've gotten in to the problem because of uncontrolled globalism and capitalism. Sold our industries off for cheap slavery wages in other parts of the world i.e. India and China. My town used to be the cotton capital of the world until the owners shut them all down.

We need to build back our manufacturing base so we have something to offer the rest of the world. Otherwise we have nothing and are open to being pressured by other countries.
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Are you going to work for £10 a day in a cotton factory or any factory for that matter? Our business owners moved manufacturing abroad because if they didn't they'd go out of business. Unless you are happy to live in a world where we have tariffs that are so high they pretty much kill global trade and so your choice of product is basically the crap your country can produce (see UK car industry in the 70s-80s)

The problem is we've allowed ourselves to become dependant on counties like Russia for energy. We'll likely pay a heavy price for that decision.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Are you going to work for £10 a day in a cotton factory or any factory for that matter? Our business owners moved manufacturing abroad because if they didn't they'd go out of business. Unless you are happy to live in a world where we have tariffs that are so high they pretty much kill global trade and so your choice of product is basically the crap your country can produce (see UK car industry in the 70s-80s)
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God bless those sweatshops :D.
 
lookitsjonno said:
50% of German Gas is Russian, if Russia turned off the pipeline the wholesale price would go through the roof which wouldn't only effect Germany but Europe as countries grapple to source new supply
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Assuming no one else will buy it, simply they will
If anything the russains would be looking for more volume across more markets.
It will cost more but its not like their gas will simply have no usage
If europe start pushing hard against Russian gas then the russians will invest in more liquidification
Once its been washed through a couple of countries the fact its russian gas will practically disappear I am sure.

You would just see more Saudi gas coming to Europe and more Russian gas going east in reality.
 
Firestar_3x said:
Not in the UK however.
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Not directly but we all pay the same market rate for gas and our gas fields are run by private companies, not government or charity and Europe will be needing gas from somewhere

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
At least if the nukes go off we will save on the heating bill until the nuclear winter starts right?
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I read somewhere being vaporised by a nuke is the best/most painless way to die
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Assuming no one else will buy it, simply they will
If anything the russains would be looking for more volume across more markets.
It will cost more but its not like their gas will simply have no usage
If europe start pushing hard against Russian gas then the russians will invest in more liquidification
Once its been washed through a couple of countries the fact its russian gas will practically disappear I am sure.

You would just see more Saudi gas coming to Europe and more Russian gas going east in reality.
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exactly china will step in to help russia sell its gas, so it wont hurt russia that much in the short term if they halts supplies to the west or we refuse to buy
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
I happened to fall down the rabbit hole of nuclear fusion today and the fact that most western nations (except France and a few others) are so far behind is an embarrassment.
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Yet Britain leads the way on fusion. Go figure.


The UK-based JET laboratory has smashed its own world record for the amount of energy it can extract by squeezing together two forms of hydrogen.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60312633.amp
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Assuming no one else will buy it, simply they will
If anything the russains would be looking for more volume across more markets.
It will cost more but its not like their gas will simply have no usage
If europe start pushing hard against Russian gas then the russians will invest in more liquidification
Once its been washed through a couple of countries the fact its russian gas will practically disappear I am sure.

You would just see more Saudi gas coming to Europe and more Russian gas going east in reality.
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The US wants to supply the EU with liquified gas, so you have a competitive aspect between Russia and the US right there. Hence US doesn't want NordStream2.
 
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