Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I'm not sure what this achieves for Russia - full-scale invasion still seems uncertain and the international community has no choice but to pretty much make Russia a pariah state now.
 
I'm not sure what this achieves for Russia - full-scale invasion still seems uncertain and the international community has no choice but to pretty much make Russia a pariah state now.

Don't forget Belarus too, I'm sure Putin has his alliances already prepared should it really kick into something larger than Ukraine he isn't stupid, he knows exactly what he's doing and he's seemingly planned this through very intelligently knowing exactly what the response will be and he doesn't care.

Any sanctions the West put on him will not matter, it's why we need to do more

Air raid sirens in Lviv, Ivano Frankovisk airport has been attacked too

People in Europe had issue with Middle East refugees

I wonder how they'll cope with millions of Ukrainians



Rubio giving us the juicy intel he's getting
 
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I'm not sure what this achieves for Russia - full-scale invasion still seems uncertain and the international community has no choice but to pretty much make Russia a pariah state now.

I’m still trying to figure it out as well. The risks/costs rewards don’t seem to fully add up. Which just shows how illogical and ideological this move seems to be.
 
Ukraine's military says its air defence shot down a Russian plane in eastern Ukraine.

Separately, it says it has shot down five Russian planes and one Russian helicopter in the Luhansk region.
 
Ukraine's military says its air defence shot down a Russian plane in eastern Ukraine.

Separately, it says it has shot down five Russian planes and one Russian helicopter in the Luhansk region.

Russia saying it has neutralised the air defence

Ukraine saying the air defence neutralised a lot of the Russia SRBM's and Cruise Missile

Judging from the lack of a whole lot of massive explosions videos I'd say Ukraine is telling the truth

Just call them peacekeepers as that's apparently acceptable.

Yep peacekeepers for a military operation, that was literally the answer the Russian ambassador in the UN said the Ukraine ambassador when he called Russia out on the declaration of war
 
Russia saying it has neutralised the air defence

Ukraine saying the air defence neutralised a lot of the Russia SRBM's and Cruise Missile

Judging from the lack of a whole lot of massive explosions videos I'd say Ukraine is telling the truth

At this point I wouldnt necessarily believe either sides claims. We're into the very common ground now of making propoganda claims during wars. Just as the reporter just said - its highly unlikely that the Ukraine has shot down 6 Russian airplanes and its equally highly unlikely that Ukrainian air defence has been neutralised. Its all most likely both sides simply trying to put a positive propoganda spin on the early exchanges
 
Russia saying it has neutralised the air defence

Ukraine saying the air defence neutralised a lot of the Russia SRBM's and Cruise Missile

Judging from the lack of a whole lot of massive explosions videos I'd say Ukraine is telling the truth



Yep peacekeepers for a military operation, that was literally the answer the Russian ambassador in the UN said the Ukraine ambassador when he called Russia out on the declaration of war
i wouldnt be surprised if ukraine had our missle defence system
 
I have a contact in lviv right now. Not sure what to do to stay or go to poland.

They have not passport.

We have an office in Lviv and there have been plans to turn one of our Polish sites into somewhere that the Lviv office can go to with their families, hopefully not necessary, but prepare for worst is the best way.
 
At this point I wouldnt necessarily believe either sides claims. We're into the very common ground now of making propoganda claims during wars. Just as the reporter just said - its highly unlikely that the Ukraine has shot down 6 Russian airplanes and its equally highly unlikely that Ukrainian air defence has been neutralised. Its all most likely both sides simply trying to put a positive propoganda spin on the early exchanges

Maybe Nato gave the Ukrainians some more air defence they haven't told us about ?

One thing that just occurred to me now, everybody talking that Putin is going to steam roll Ukraine, what happens if he starts to lose ? His nuclear threat, what do we do then ? Let him nuke Ukraine ?

i wouldnt be surprised if ukraine had our missle defence system

Yep I think so too, obviously had a whole lot of intel from us at least which is a good sign

I have a contact in lviv right now. Not sure what to do to stay or go to poland.

They have not passport.

If they don't want to fight there's no shame in getting away from it, although I imagine the border is going to be busy so possibly the best place is to stay put, it's going to take weeks for RU forces to reach Lviv if at all
 
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