Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

adam cool dude · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:31

Neil79 said:
I wonder if the Russian army will be using Wing Suits while shouting "Angel does it Again"

I will be worried when the Kirov's and Tesla troopers come rolling through.

Entai · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:31

Jono8 said:
Yes, I expect the USA alone, let alone the whole of NATO in its entiriety would beat Russia in a conventional war.

USA have approx 480,000 regular troops, most of which are in the US obviously.

Russia have 1.5 million regular troops all of which are only a few hours from Ukraine.

Without escalating to WMD's, personally, the US could not beat Russia.

With the help of all of NATO, there might be a chance, but as Russia are far more likely to use WMD's before NATO would, i still think we would loose

Armageus · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:32

Roar87 said:
What do you mean anything is better? Are people this dumb?

A soundbite and some half hearted sanctions are neither going to scare Putin or reassure Ukrainians.

We applied weak sanctions yesterday, and even now aren't looking at anything much more tangible. Our sanction response yesterday needed to be something to actually act as some kind of deterrent.

Minusorange · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:33

Jono8 said:
Yes, I expect the USA alone, let alone the whole of NATO in its entiriety would beat Russia in a conventional war.

People say this, yet Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya all suggest otherwise (They all used old Russian tech too)

adam cool dude · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:33

413x said:
Things like this show we will never crack climate change

Climate change will happen for real soon!

Freddie1980 · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:33

There's already some real grizzly videos appearing on Twitter apparently showing the remains of destroyed Russian tanks and dead soldiers.

Uther · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:35

Armageus said:
A soundbite and some half hearted sanctions are neither going to scare Putin or reassure Ukrainians.

We applied weak sanctions yesterday, and even now aren't looking at anything much tangible. Our sanction response yesterday needed to be something to actually act as some kind of deterrent.

Putins mind was made up, sanctions weren't going to stop him then, and won't now.
Reports of quite a few civilian casulaties coming in now

Jono8 · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:35

Russian stock index is down a further 34% today!

inogen · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:35

Freddie1980 said:
There's already some real grizzly videos appearing on Twitter apparently showing the remains of destroyed Russian tanks and dead soldiers.

I'd be taking any grizzly videos on twitter with a huge grain of salt.

alchal · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:35

NZXT30 said:
No-one said that Russia had no choice but it's important to understand what led Russia to do what it's doing right now instead of just calling Putin a madman.

I assume you have not watched any of his public broadcasts where he obviously unhinged...

Turn · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:35

https://twitter.com/x/status/1496825924800724998

Sanctions in the energy sector are necessary I think

Neil79 · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:35

inogen said:
I'd be taking any grizzly videos on twitter with a huge grain of salt.

Yeh such as all the dead bodies shown in parts of the Middle East and claims the US did it

Terminal_Boy · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:36

TheOracle said:
I've always wondered this, but when was the last time the US actually engaged in a war and did well?

World War 2.

Operationally, the US forces in South Vietnam had given the Viet Cong a battering during the failed Tet Offensive in 1968 it would never recover from and reduced the North Vietnamese Army to such an extent by late 1970 that it could no longer mount meaningful operations south of the 38th parallel.

ARVN forces held up about as long as the ANA did after the Americans went home.

CaptainRAVE · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:36

Sounds like Russia are going straight for government buildings. Unsurprising.

Hopefully a combo of tough sanctions and a prolonged occupation of Ukraine will grind Russia even further down.

alchal · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:36

Chuk_Chuk said:
Already mentioned in thread

Because Turkey is on the russian border

Show me, because there are none.
Zero, ziltch.

I'm not even going to respond to that last part

Johno please? · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:36

Doobedoo said:
Wrong on Iraq?

Ah Kofi Annan, wouldnt take his word for much seeing as he was happy to let hundreds of thousands of africans die on his watch.

Saddam had WMDs, what did he use against the Iranian, Shia and Kurdish people? Then theres the nuclear bomb he was trying to aquire.

We couldn't even account for all the weapons he admitting to having, I mean you can read all this on wikipedia its not some back end of nowhere internet myth, its just we were sold a bad meme by the media.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/so-mr-hitchens-weren-t-you-wrong-about-iraq.html

Doobedoo · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:36

Neil79 said:
Correction " People in POWER " are our worst enemy!

Our Government and Police Force are corrupt

Really have not been reading this thread. “Normal” people calling for assassination, Nuclear war, burning environmentalists and no doubt more.

The whole world has gone nuts, less so if you don’t watch the news though

StriderX · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:39

Minusorange said:
People say this, yet Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya all suggest otherwise (They all used old Russian tech too)

Any conflict that involved conventional arms and tactics was dealt with swiftly (except Korea where China ensured a stalemate), as soon as the mission turns to occupation in the middle of a guerrilla war then such an advantage dissipates because it's more about winning the minds of people than it is destroying armour or flattening squads of soldiers.

dowie · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:40

Entai said:
USA have approx 480,000 regular troops, most of which are in the US obviously.

Russia have 1.5 million regular troops all of which are only a few hours from Ukraine.

Without escalating to WMD's, personally, the US could not beat Russia.

With the help of all of NATO, there might be a chance, but as Russia are far more likely to use WMD's before NATO would, i still think we would loose

Pfft, you've gotta be kidding. It's not all about troop numbers, US would easily get air superiority and A10s and attack helicopters would quite easily destroy Russian armour.

The Funktopus · 24 Feb 2022 at 12:40

Terminal_Boy said:
World War 2.

Operationally, the US forces in South Vietnam had given the Viet Cong a battering during the failed Tet Offensive in 1968 it would never recover from and reduced the North Vietnamese Army to such an extent by late 1970 that it could no longer mount meaningful operations south of the 38th parallel.

ARVN forces held up about as long as the ANA did after the Americans went home.

Korea I would have said.