Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[Nate75]

Tbh, Russia's/USSR's history is littered with assainations of dissidents, and people who oppose the regime. You can look back all the way to the Tsars in the 18th century for recorded history of these happening all the time. Irocically, I've just finished watching Litvinenko on itv. Can't believe that was 2006 - seems such a long time ago, and in the same year, a month before, Anna Politkovskaya, a Russian anti-Putin journalist was assasinated who had close ties to Litvinenko. All of these had direct links back to Putin.

Anna was one of the ones I was reading about as it happens.

There is a list posted that I came across of Journalists etc that have been killed or dissapeared under Putin. It's not a small list!

 

[CaneyJ]

That was a big boom! Hope she went down with all hands.

 

[Grim5]

Today Russia has lost another landing ship

Video has just been posted showing ukranian kamikaze dron boats ramming the ship until she sank

 

[bingham67]

Ukraine have dealt some big blows to Russia in this war, whilst the battlefield currently looks bleak.

Ukraine can be immensely proud.

 

[Rroff]

Makes you think about all navies surface fleets vs what i assume was a "sea drone attack" type of thing. I doubt the UK or even USA could stop stuff like this?

or was it a missile based attack?

Some ships in a hot war can run electronic warfare to jam these drones - not normally done due to the interference it would create, though if advanced enough you could pilot a drone into range and then let optical feature recognition or IR homing, etc. do the final bit.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Trumps major problem is he talks and acts like he is addressing a board meeting of sycophants and not the world stage.

A normal politician would call for NATO allies to increase spending and bolster supplies in a show of strength. People would listen. Oh America thinks this. Maybe we should do it.

Trump literally ***** the bed threatening to not honour agreements, other idle threats and bluffs, threatening to set Russia on you, I mean complete nonsense but, huge but, ......

People listen to his nonsense more than the message. Increase military spending.
Wipe off the nonsense, I know it's difficult, I hate it now. He can't win the election, people with his style, regardless of his actual real or not corruption allegations etc etc. He is so different to what the world needs. I'll be amazed if Taiwan doesn't get invaded if Trump wins, let alone tje Ukrainian situation.

2024... Trump or Biden? Jesus wept...

They already committed to spending more, you can see real progress now from many nations.
The UK hovers just above the 2% but IMO I would rather a much bigger chunk was on physical conventional than vanity carriers, nuclear subs and pensions etc

 

[bingham67]

Just reading up the same ship was damaged before and put out of action for a while, looks like it might be down with the fish now.

 

[teejay73]

Anna was one of the ones I was reading about as it happens.

There is a list posted that I came across of Journalists etc that have been killed or dissapeared under Putin. It's not a small list!

Yep, Putin is showing Stalin levels of deplorability. Russia has been ruled by fear & ignorance for many centuries. Should be treated like NK, a rouge state. difference is, Russia has something the West, China and India need/want.

 

[XPE]

Today Russia has lost another landing ship

Video has just been posted showing ukranian kamikaze dron boats ramming the ship until she sank

Is that the land in the back ground? I wonder if they were sticking to the coast to avoid going out to open water.

 

[Harlequin]

Russia twitter going mental the ship is only damaged - meanwhile the footage shows it healing over and sinking.....


AFU need to hit the subs

 

[Grim5]

Some ships in a hot war can run electronic warfare to jam these drones - not normally done due to the interference it would create, though if advanced enough you could pilot a drone into range and then let optical feature recognition or IR homing, etc. do the final bit.

Also US ships don't sail alone as seems to be common for Russian ships. They sail in combined groups, which makes picking one off much harder for the enemy and much easier to defend. When Russia lost its flagship Moskva, she was sitting off the Ukranian coast all alone and it took hours for backup to arrive. The US strategy is one learned in WW2, where German subs would find it easy to destroy lone ships in the middle of nowhere but when ships grouped up and defended eachother, the Germans found it much harder to attack and 75% of German submarine crews ended up dying for it

 

[Minusorange]

Russia denazify Ukraine
Ukraine denavyfy Russia

 

[Minstadave]

Black Sea fleet successfully intercepting Ukr naval drones again.

Absolute masterful innovation on the part of Ukraine.

 

[XPE]

Also US ships don't sail alone as seems to be common for Russian ships. They sail in combined groups, which makes picking one off much harder for the enemy and much easier to defend. When Russia lost its flagship Moskva, she was sitting off the Ukranian coast all alone and it took hours for backup to arrive. The US strategy is one learned in WW2, where German subs would find it easy to destroy lone ships in the middle of nowhere but when ships grouped up and defended eachother, the Germans found it much harder to attack and 75% of German submarine crews ended up dying for it

It a baffling question of why they are sending ships out alone or why they continue to use them at all. That's why I was in disbelief when i heard the news, you cant put reason to any of this.

 

[alchal]

So much copium on russian channels going on.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

That’s a big ship. Drones have rewritten the rules of the battlefield. You’d have a tough job to intercept a load of those in comparison very cheap drones.

 

[Harlequin]

That’s a big ship. Drones have rewritten the rules of the battlefield. You’d have a tough job to intercept a load of those in comparison very cheap drones.

With the CR2 video above the commander says they are firing correcting themselves with drones for 3km shots onto concrete bunkers (with hesh)

 

[tamzzy]

closer to reality by the day

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Problem with more ships is its a bigger target in effect. Your basically back to the WW2 atlantic convoys, do you send loads in one go creating a larger signature bt hopefully some escape if spotted, or send loads individually and hope many get through but accept some will for sure be spotted and most could be spotted.
Once they realised that most would be spotted they resorted to large formations with escorts. The escorts being the key with some chance to minimise losses.

Assuming you have no real way to deal with a threat as the Russians seem not to with the drones then individually is probably better.
I mean they can deal with them but not 100% reliably, they are resorting to heavy machine guns in effect.

 

[Mr Joshua]

I watched a video on YouTube recently of a cruise ship turning around mid ocean to take a look at a life raft they'd spotted. Just watching that made me realise how difficult it is to see anything small like that at sea even with the high visibility markings on it.

No wonder these small drones are able to go unnoticed for so long.