I don't understand why people are underwhelmed with the next gen at this point, what where they expecting? launch games are always like this, it usually takes around 2 years to make a top notch AAA title or at least with the yearly games like fifa, cod, assasins creed etc they have familiar hardware to work with while devs only got access to next gen dev kits around the start of this year and even then had to work around constantly changing operating systems, drivers etc (prob why games are now being delayed) the next couple of years we should see some real improvements once they get used to the new systems (especially among the first party devs, I can't wait to see what naughty dog has been working on) and regarding the specs I can't believe people are not happy with them, given the budget, size, thermals etc I think it's spot on, things like 8gb ram (especially the gddr5 in ps4) 8 cores and dgpu will make a big difference in the coming years when optimised and used to there full potential
Underwhelemd by the 'next' generation of consoles and games?
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I'm pretty whelmed tbh
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Yup, I'm very underwhelmed by the consoles that haven't been released yet, by the games I haven't played yet, and by the years of innovations that these new consoles haven't given us yet. Very underwhelmed indeed.
Thanks Davey, you broke my sarcasm detector and now I will need to get another one
The consoles haven't launched yet but while it appears that initial titles are struggling to get 1080 out of the consoles I wouldn't say I am underwhelmed. The current gen have managed some truely spectacular things which just are not possible on PC's. Just look at GTA5, as far as I am aware a PC spec hasn't been released for it yet but to get the same graphical fidelity is going to require a PC many time more powerful than the 360/PS3. I am not technical enough to know exactly why though I do understand the general ideas behind it. So yes the next gen consoles may not be as powerful as top end PC's these days but given time I don't see any problems with providing some graphical marvels.
The thing I can't work out is peoples obsession with the apparent magical figure of 1080. Yes I get that it is suprising that they cannot do it (currently) but so what really. How many people are actually bothered by it? Obviously given the choice you/I would pick 1080 but to 'only' have 720 just isn't a disaster to me. If people are so concerned for graphics and resolution why aren't people complaining that the upcoming gen can't display triple moniters at 2500x1600 - I mean that is well within reach of high end PC's.
If you remember back to some of the launch games for the PS3 and Xbox 360, they weren't incredible either. What I find remarkable is how much the games have improved while those consoles have been out, and developers have learned to take advantage of them.
There aren't any day one purchases for me which absolutely must be played, but I'll be picking up a PS4 in a year or so, probably when Fifa 15 comes rolling around, or when the first big exclusive hits.
(I'll also be working next year, rather than a miserly student, which will help!)
There aren't any day one purchases for me which absolutely must be played, but I'll be picking up a PS4 in a year or so, probably when Fifa 15 comes rolling around, or when the first big exclusive hits.
(I'll also be working next year, rather than a miserly student, which will help!)
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It's the current buzzword of choice, that's all. At the beginning of last gen it was all about AA.
Forza, Titanfall, Halo are all the reasons I needed!
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I'll be getting a PS4 for xmas (closest to launch I will ever have obtained a new console) and i am far from underwhelmed. Launch games aren't great or what i am looking forward to playing this gen, but they never really are and I think all the games i most enjoyed over the years were never launch titles.
Equally I think this gen is quite different to previous in that there are no real changes to hardware, by this I mean for example, whith the PS1 / saturn / 64 they were the first disc based systems and had true-ish 3d worlds, ps2 / xbox could play dvd's and began the online element of consoles, PS3 / 360 online was key, voice comms, blu ray and wireless controllers, built in HDD. Whereas this generation seems more about refinement rather than any new stuff. Not that the above made the consoles, but they did sort of catch the eye and were very tangible improvements.
Also the media saturation and our abiltiy to access it, better internet, smartphones, tablets, 3&4G and a significantly more mature social media network means we are constantly fed information and data on the new systems more that we ever were and its easy to access, so we don't have to wait for next months magazine to tell use whats going on, so even the impact of new information is lessened and diluted.
I also think as well that most of us are old enough to have been through this launch stuff many amany times and are just a bunch of jaded old buggers who are tired of getting one shotted by quick scopers
Equally I think this gen is quite different to previous in that there are no real changes to hardware, by this I mean for example, whith the PS1 / saturn / 64 they were the first disc based systems and had true-ish 3d worlds, ps2 / xbox could play dvd's and began the online element of consoles, PS3 / 360 online was key, voice comms, blu ray and wireless controllers, built in HDD. Whereas this generation seems more about refinement rather than any new stuff. Not that the above made the consoles, but they did sort of catch the eye and were very tangible improvements.
Also the media saturation and our abiltiy to access it, better internet, smartphones, tablets, 3&4G and a significantly more mature social media network means we are constantly fed information and data on the new systems more that we ever were and its easy to access, so we don't have to wait for next months magazine to tell use whats going on, so even the impact of new information is lessened and diluted.
I also think as well that most of us are old enough to have been through this launch stuff many amany times and are just a bunch of jaded old buggers who are tired of getting one shotted by quick scopers
These sort of viewpoints are based solely on ignorance, and the people posting that sort of stuff should know better, like the OP who has just been talking smack for most of this thread.
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I dno this gen might be the kickstart for digital downloads overtaking retail and the emergence of game streaming - hell it might be the last traditional box in your home console gen
My first launch console purchase so its all quite new, more for the fact I generally lose interest in the current gen way before the next gen gets touted - so Ive got the PS3 to thank for that...
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Slightly harsh, why so?
I dno this gen might be the kickstart for digital downloads overtaking retail and the emergence of game streaming - hell it might be the last traditional box in your home console gen
My first launch console purchase so its all quite new, more for the fact I generally lose interest in the current gen way before the next gen gets touted - so Ive got the PS3 to thank for that...
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Judging by the size of some of the games we know about so far, digital downloads are simply not going to be an option for a lot of people due to internet speeds. Luckily my 40MB internet should do ok for the few games I will want to download (probably mainly PS+ games)
Unless its going to take you days, downloading something overnight isnt that much of a hassle as far as Im concerned - I very much think the loss of traction when it comes to digital downloads is far more to do with their pricing compared to retail rather than actual download size.
Its not like these download sizes dont exist on Steam and rarely does anyone bat an eyelid using that platform. Hell I still find it ok to kill my connection to redownload games as part of say an OS upgrade than to bother organising backup of game data - broadband just makes it near disposable for me...
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The games are artificially large, or rather they don't *need* to be so large for non-disc based games.
Games installed to a hard disk don't need to be as large as games stored on a blu-ray disc, because of blu-ray disc's relatively low data transfer rates, games have duplicated assets around multiple areas of the disc to help with loading speeds and so on.
On a hard disk this is much less of an issue, so won't be required.
Yeh i forgot about that, the reason I don't buy digital games is the ridiculous prices. Can't remember which game it was but I opened the store on my PS3 the other day and the game on the first screen was £59.99. I will NEVER pay that for a game.Unless its going to take you days, downloading something overnight isnt that much of a hassle as far as Im concerned - I very much think the loss of traction when it comes to digital downloads is far more to do with their pricing compared to retail rather than actual download size.
Its not like these download sizes dont exist on Steam and rarely does anyone bat an eyelid using that platform...
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Unless its going to take you days, downloading something overnight isnt that much of a hassle as far as Im concerned - I very much think the loss of traction when it comes to digital downloads is far more to do with their pricing compared to retail rather than actual download size.
Its not like these download sizes dont exist on Steam and rarely does anyone bat an eyelid using that platform...
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A lot of PS3 games are quite heavy on the size for the above reasons. Some Steam games ARE heavy, but they top out usually at around the 20GB mark.
In contrast, it seems fairly common for some PS3 games to be around the 20GB though.
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There's quite a big difference between them, I think the issue is a lot of people are getting to the limit of what they can distinguish between without an absolutely massive jump in visual quality.
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Ah Spoffle, so someone with a different opinion to your own is talking smack..
Yeah ok buddy.
I'm underwhelmed by the specs, I'm sure there will be some good games eventually, but there is nothing really 'next gen' so far. Also I don't want PC to held back even more so this gen than the last. That's my opinion, guess what bud, you can't change it.
Some people just can't accept others have different viewpoints, apparently a different viewpoint to spoffle is ignorance or talking smack lol.
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Ah Spoffle, so someone with a different opinion to your own is talking smack..
Yeah ok buddy.
I'm underwhelmed by the specs, I'm sure there will be some good games eventually, but there is nothing really 'next gen' so far. Also I don't want PC to held back even more so this gen than the last. That's my opinion, guess what bud, you can't change it.
Some people just can't accept others have different viewpoints
I can deal with differing opinions no problem, but "MY OPINION" is not a defense for being ignorant and talking rubbish.
People have a right to an informed opinion, yours is not informed, and yes you are just talking smack. You are making claims and claiming that that in itself is "proof".
The point being, you are looking at the specs and comparing them to a PC, you don't do that because that's not how it works.
You've been asked multiple times in this thread about how the PS3 coming out when the 8800GTX came out, and how that's any different to now and you haven't responded to it. So tell me more about how I can't handle opinions that differ from my own, also, define "next gen", as it seems that nearly no one actually knows what it means.
Oh and, consoles don't hold the PC back, consoles have had a lot to do with the progression of the games industry, without consoles games would not be where they are now.
Another thing you are ignorant to, but still try to express authoritative opinions on based solely on your "PC Master Race" membership card.