Poll: United States Grand Prix 2016, Austin - Race 18/21

Rate the 2016 United States Grand Prix out of ten

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utajoker said:
certainly a con for VSC, just removed the battle for 2nd.
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I'm incredibly critical of times they've needed VSC/SC for things like Bianchi, such a predictable crash and SC should have happened instantly then. But here, Max was right up against a fire point off track, across gravel, in the dry in a corner where you basically won't ever hit that point. Didn't need a VSC as the truck itself never even needed to come on track, it was behind the orange bit and hanging out over the car. In a 0.0002% chance area of a car hitting, it would hit another car, not a heavy vehicle and at slow speed, awful decision.

Bah, Ricciardo already lost 2 seconds, didn't think there was a chance for a good fight but damn, that isn't even close. :(
 
I'd happily shut the pit lane when the SC or VSC is deployed. Only allowed in for penalties, damage or retirement. Or of course, if the pit straight was blocked with debris.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I'm incredibly critical of times they've needed VSC/SC for things like Bianchi, such a predictable crash and SC should have happened instantly then. But here, Max was right up against a fire point off track, across gravel, in the dry in a corner where you basically won't ever hit that point. Didn't need a VSC as the truck itself never even needed to come on track, it was behind the orange bit and hanging out over the car. In a 0.0002% chance area of a car hitting, it would hit another car, not a heavy vehicle and at slow speed, awful decision.
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Yep, the Bianchi incident was a massive screw-up by Whiting and co and then a total whitewash coverup afterward. Now they've gone totally the other way and are playing it stupidly safe all the time.
 
utajoker said:
they can still drive at a decent speed under safety car away from the incident area, or do they still get the timed sectors?
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They would all have pitted and the Hamilton would have been picked up by the SC and they would all be bunched up (but still in the order they are now).

VSC is better than SC for people that don't have to pit. As they aren't completely screwed over.
 
Flibster said:
I'd happily shut the pit lane when the SC or VSC is deployed. Only allowed in for penalties, damage or retirement. Or of course, if the pit straight was blocked with debris.
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Agreed although why allowed for penalties? Those should also be served under green flag conditions so you suffer the full, intended effect.
 
They tried to push Verstappens car back but it looks like the marshals neutral button wasn't working. It was pushed multiple times and when they tried to push the car backwards behind the barrier, didn't move.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Yep, the Bianchi incident was a massive screw-up by Whiting and co and then a total whitewash coverup afterward. Now they've gone totally the other way and are playing it stupidly safe all the time.
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It's so simple the Bianchi one was a mistake because it was very high speed corner, cars go off there sometimes in the dry and crucially, frequently in the rain and with changing conditions the safe speed changes every lap so hard to judge.

Every corner has different characteristics , some never have cars go off, some have cars go off fairly often. Changing conditions increases the chance particularly in a fast corner where you should have your foot down.

That corner should be classified nearly entirely safe and how close he was and where a vehicle needed to go to grab it was basically safe. In Japan, it was a bad corner made worse by conditions and the vehicle had to come way way out of a safe area.... Charlie should have been gone years ago and some professionalism in steward decisions and safety decisions.
 
Flibster said:
I'd happily shut the pit lane when the SC or VSC is deployed. Only allowed in for penalties, damage or retirement. Or of course, if the pit straight was blocked with debris.
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Would solve nothing, as you would then just screw the other guys who were going to pit. What ever happens one group gets screwed.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
The whole season has.
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Yup and that's my issue with it. If Rosberg was in the situation he currently is purely on merit, having had the same reliability as Hamilton, I'd say fair enough and good luck to him. As it stands the last two years have demonstrated he's not in the same class as Lewis and he's needed a massive reliability advantage this year to put him in this position.

The season isn't over yet but, as Brundle literally just postulated, if Lewis wins all the remaining races and Rosberg still gets it, he'll be an incredibly lucky and undeserving champion. Of course Rosberg could win all the remaining races and beat Hamilton convincingly, in which case he'd be more deserving.
 
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