**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

That seems very cheap for a brand new set of wheels and tyres. The tyres on their own probably cost at least that?

The nice thing about a good set of winter wheels over winter is that even if the conditions don't require them, it's more difficult to find the time to keep the wheels clean over winter and so running a second set, if convenient, keeps the summer wheels in great condition. We have a 2018 Mini which runs winter wheels and the summer wheels are in perfect condition and have never been refurbished.

If I could pay £800 for a brand new set of wheels and good tyres for my car I'd do it.
 
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[TW]Fox said:
That seems very cheap for a brand new set of wheels and tyres. The tyres on their own probably cost at least that?

The nice thing about a good set of winter wheels over winter is that even if the conditions don't require them, it's more difficult to find the time to keep the wheels clean over winter and so running a second set, if convenient, keeps the summer wheels in great condition. We have a 2018 Mini which runs winter wheels and the summer wheels are in perfect condition and have never been refurbished.

If I could pay £800 for a brand new set of wheels and good tyres for my car I'd do it.
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Yeah I imagine N rated tyres will be >£1K new, plus Porsche alloys will be pretty expensive. I think original owner paid about £2.5k for them.
 
MrRockliffe said:
My dad has been offered a set of wheels and winter tyres for his 718 GTS for £800. Haven’t even been used. Bought from Porsche with the car, but the guy ended up selling the car before ever putting them on.
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I'd snap them up, even if running them for a few months over the colder months they will be much better than a UHP tyre.

I missed out on a OE set for my M3 for £600 and I really regret it.
 
muon said:
MPSS is far worse than the CSC7 and MPS4S. The CSC7 and MPS4S are almost identical in the dry.

Remember you opened with MPSS is better in the dry than the MPS4S, but the CSC7 is way better (beats both by a fair margin). Proven by independent data you said.
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This clearly hard going for you so I'll try one more time, step by step...

The data from tyre testing shows the MPSS is better at dry braking than PS4S. MPSS is also faster around the Tyre Reviews test track in the same test (ideal vs comparing across different tests on different days). Therefore, backed by the data, the MPSS is the superior tyre for dry grip. This isn't an opinion that can be debated, it is fact.

Next, feel. As is stated in just about every comparison review, the MPSS sidewall gives much more direct steering feel. Subjectively, I like this characteristic and found the PS4S to be a bit 'vague'. You can make your own mind up as to if you like vague steering characteristics or not.

Personal opinion time: IN DRY CONDITIONS I would choose MPSS over PS4S every single time. There's more grip (fact, remember) and the steering feel is night and day better.

To state the MPSS is bad in the dry is nonsense. The post I was responding to said "PSS traction has always been rubbish". You chimed in stating that just because the PS4S is newer it must be better in the dry. It isn't. The incontrovertible test data shows that.

FWIW, CSC7 and PS4S aren't even close in the latest Sport Auto test. CSC7 is clearly superior in dry conditions and the PS4S is 3rd or 4th best depending on the specific test.
 
After some new tyres for my F11 530D. I currently have EF1A5s all around. Would people recommend I replace them with 6s or should I be looking at a different brand?

Thanks.
 
SaBBz said:
After some new tyres for my F11 530D. I currently have EF1A5s all around. Would people recommend I replace them with 6s or should I be looking at a different brand?

Thanks.
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The 6s are decent tyres. CSC7 are nice as well.


Must say I’ve been immensely impressed by the ride quality on the Vector 4 Season Gen 3. A little noisier than other tyres but the grip and confidence in this wet/cold weather has been phenomenal.
 
DRZ said:
This clearly hard going for you so I'll try one more time, step by step...

The data from tyre testing shows the MPSS is better at dry braking than PS4S. MPSS is also faster around the Tyre Reviews test track in the same test (ideal vs comparing across different tests on different days). Therefore, backed by the data, the MPSS is the superior tyre for dry grip. This isn't an opinion that can be debated, it is fact.

Next, feel. As is stated in just about every comparison review, the MPSS sidewall gives much more direct steering feel. Subjectively, I like this characteristic and found the PS4S to be a bit 'vague'. You can make your own mind up as to if you like vague steering characteristics or not.

Personal opinion time: IN DRY CONDITIONS I would choose MPSS over PS4S every single time. There's more grip (fact, remember) and the steering feel is night and day better.

To state the MPSS is bad in the dry is nonsense. The post I was responding to said "PSS traction has always been rubbish". You chimed in stating that just because the PS4S is newer it must be better in the dry. It isn't. The incontrovertible test data shows that.

FWIW, CSC7 and PS4S aren't even close in the latest Sport Auto test. CSC7 is clearly superior in dry conditions and the PS4S is 3rd or 4th best depending on the specific test.
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2022 Tyre Reviews UUHP Summer Tyre Test - Tyre reviews and ratings

2022 Tyre Reviews UUHP Summer Tyre Test
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Tyre Reviews, not an opinion, can't be debated. As you boldly claim. Clearly superior? 0.4s faster over a 52 second lap for their most up to date test. Somehow, you think an MPSS fits in that tiny gap, and if it did, it is practically on par with the CSC7.

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Evo test also for dry handling lap times, 99.5% of the CSC7. Dry braking 98.5%.

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Somehow, the MPSS is in between.
 
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MrRockliffe said:
The 6s are decent tyres. CSC7 are nice as well.


Must say I’ve been immensely impressed by the ride quality on the Vector 4 Season Gen 3. A little noisier than other tyres but the grip and confidence in this wet/cold weather has been phenomenal.
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Thanks, will have a look around to see what kind of prices those are.
 
I paid £900 for a set of 640m alloys and winter tyre set from my BMW dealership a while back, peanuts and tyres worth more alone. So I'd purchase them for that price.
 
DRZ said:
This clearly hard going for you so I'll try one more time, step by step...

The data from tyre testing shows the MPSS is better at dry braking than PS4S. MPSS is also faster around the Tyre Reviews test track in the same test (ideal vs comparing across different tests on different days). Therefore, backed by the data, the MPSS is the superior tyre for dry grip. This isn't an opinion that can be debated, it is fact.

Next, feel. As is stated in just about every comparison review, the MPSS sidewall gives much more direct steering feel. Subjectively, I like this characteristic and found the PS4S to be a bit 'vague'. You can make your own mind up as to if you like vague steering characteristics or not.

Personal opinion time: IN DRY CONDITIONS I would choose MPSS over PS4S every single time. There's more grip (fact, remember) and the steering feel is night and day better.

To state the MPSS is bad in the dry is nonsense. The post I was responding to said "PSS traction has always been rubbish". You chimed in stating that just because the PS4S is newer it must be better in the dry. It isn't. The incontrovertible test data shows that.

FWIW, CSC7 and PS4S aren't even close in the latest Sport Auto test. CSC7 is clearly superior in dry conditions and the PS4S is 3rd or 4th best depending on the specific test.
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It was me who has had traction issues with the PSS and I did also say I had had the alignment done recently. I keep considering M performance coliover setup and setup via Gravity Center. My old 135i was a bit unpredictable, but a LSD and alignment sorted that out.

My 135i was better than my M2 on a B road and that ran on PSS. 225/40/18 and 245/35/18
 
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The F1A6s on my F11 are up for replacement and I've been eyeing up the PS5s. I really liked the PS4s I had previously but some people seem to report the PS5s are a step back.

Should I just get the cheapest one of the following or is one significantly better?

F1A6
PS4
PS5
CSC7

EDIT: Just had a look and the CSC7 isn't available in 245/40/19.
 
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530d had an MOT advisory for the tread degrading/perished on all 4 corners, tyres are a little old so not too surprising but had 3-4mm left on each tyre. Seemed like a good opportunity to move on from the Goodyear RFT's so had some PS5's turn up today ready to be fitted later in the week, the internet is riddled with anecdotes of the ride quality improvements after moving away from RFT's so I'm excited to find out for myself!
 
Antony101 said:
The F1A6s on my F11 are up for replacement and I've been eyeing up the PS5s. I really liked the PS4s I had previously but some people seem to report the PS5s are a step back.

Should I just get the cheapest one of the following or is one significantly better?

F1A6
PS4
PS5
CSC7

EDIT: Just had a look and the CSC7 isn't available in 245/40/19.
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Interesting re the PS5 I was look at those to replace the tyres on our Mini Cooper S 195/45/17 if I recall. Car really nice on the PS4 and if it wasn't my Mrs car I'd put a Quaife diff in the front.
 
OG said:
530d had an MOT advisory for the tread degrading/perished on all 4 corners, tyres are a little old so not too surprising but had 3-4mm left on each tyre. Seemed like a good opportunity to move on from the Goodyear RFT's so had some PS5's turn up today ready to be fitted later in the week, the internet is riddled with anecdotes of the ride quality improvements after moving away from RFT's so I'm excited to find out for myself!
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Went from Pirelli run flats to PS5 all round in February. Quieter, rides better and general improvement overall. Very pleased.
 
car just got back from it's 1st MOT at jaguar main dealer

My front tyres are red advisories as 3mm tread on outer edge and rears are yellow advisory with 4mm

but what interested me was the tyre reccomendation.

currently it has Goodyear on , with a weight index of 105

back when I got the car I was advised to stick with 105 as it's a heavy car however the main dealer quoted me for their reccomendation which they presumably put on all their cars now

continental tyres with a 102 weight index

If 102 is ok for the ipace it gives me more decent quality buying options.
 
If I'm correct 105 on the index is 925kgs per corner so 3.7T GVWR. If you dropped to 102 it'd be 3.4T.

Check the plaque on your car or the manual and see what it says your GVWR is.
 
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