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Mine are great in the wet too, I'm also impressed with the tyres damp performance, something which only the cs5 has satisfied me at in the past.
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Mine are great in the wet too, I'm also impressed with the tyres damp performance, something which only the cs5 has satisfied me at in the past.
Well I always remember when you followed me once in the 911 and you commented on how I was flinging it around in the wet. Do you remember as that was how much confidence the SuperSports inspired and with grip to back it up.
Had a lot of tyres on the 911 now, Michelin PS2, Michelin PSS, Michelin cup, Pirelli Pzero Rosso and the SuperSports are in a different league in wet performance. I've also had loan Boxsters/Caymans which were fitted with Pzero, F1AS2 and RE050A which were all driven in the wet and well though not identical cars, but similar for sure the SuperSports inspired a huge amount more confidence in the wet and were as grippy as the F1AS2 and Pzero, the RE050A was lacking in the wet though.
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I actually think they are better in the wet than the AS2, though need a bit more experience of the AS2 to confirm that. I was coming home the other night in damp conditions and they seemed to break grip quicker. The Supersports have a confidence inspiring turn in that is better than the AS2's by quite a bit, they are harder and sharper but they also felt a smudge tighter in the wet too.
No contest m8 when it comes to feedback, the SuperSports practically have the wet grip of the F1AS2 but the feedback levels and progressivness are far better. Most will never notice this if they just drive to the shops or go up and down motorways. But if you love driving and pushing your car, then the MPSS are a better choice.
What do people here think of the 595rsr for a summer/track tyre? I'm not expecting them to be in the same league as AD08's or R888's but they are nearly 50% cheaper in my size which would make them crazy not to consider!
Poor in wet and cold. In dry and warm good but take some time to get heat into. The new NS-2R is supposed to be better from those who have tried both.
So my view of the Goodyear AS2's on my F10 530D?
I prefer them to my previous tyres, being Michelin Pilot Super Sports for two key reasons. They are quieter and they ride better, which were the only 2 issues I had with the Super Sports, the noise being the main issue really, the ride was not that much of an issue. So all in all a good choice which having spent circa £900 without being sure is pleasing.
However, in terms of dry weather performance, grip and traction, they are not as good. They are more willing to light up at the rear earlier than the SS's and when pushed hard (and I mean properly hard cross country full commitment which I suspect most won't do) they don't have the same level grip levels at the extreme and though very safe and secure do start to show some understeer and feel less firm on turn in, emitting the chirping of tyres on their limit, something I can't recall hearing much if at all with the Michelins. In terms of wet weather they don't offer the same level of confidence, though I think this is more down to they lack of stiffness and willingness to move a bit more rather than overall grip. I suspect once use to that the levels of grip will be actually just as good but again I never found the SS's lacking in this area.
I think the Super Sports on the right car, such as Gibbos 911 where noise and ride is not an issue in the same way it is for me, they are about as good as an all round tyre gets, they really are very good. But on my F10 the AS2's are without question the better tyre as they do an all round job brilliantly.
My 2p's worth.
I prefer them to my previous tyres, being Michelin Pilot Super Sports for two key reasons. They are quieter and they ride better, which were the only 2 issues I had with the Super Sports, the noise being the main issue really, the ride was not that much of an issue. So all in all a good choice which having spent circa £900 without being sure is pleasing.
However, in terms of dry weather performance, grip and traction, they are not as good. They are more willing to light up at the rear earlier than the SS's and when pushed hard (and I mean properly hard cross country full commitment which I suspect most won't do) they don't have the same level grip levels at the extreme and though very safe and secure do start to show some understeer and feel less firm on turn in, emitting the chirping of tyres on their limit, something I can't recall hearing much if at all with the Michelins. In terms of wet weather they don't offer the same level of confidence, though I think this is more down to they lack of stiffness and willingness to move a bit more rather than overall grip. I suspect once use to that the levels of grip will be actually just as good but again I never found the SS's lacking in this area.
I think the Super Sports on the right car, such as Gibbos 911 where noise and ride is not an issue in the same way it is for me, they are about as good as an all round tyre gets, they really are very good. But on my F10 the AS2's are without question the better tyre as they do an all round job brilliantly.
My 2p's worth.
Maybe it's just me but in my current 330ci and my old 335i i never had problems with the wheels lighting up when driving hard on the road in the dry.
On the track, going full balls out, the traction control came on ever so briefly if you stomped on the accelerator as you were coming out of the bend, which is to be expected, but on the road, I've done some very hard drives and in the dry i've never found myself losing traction. I appreciate you've said it happens when you are going full commitment, but you must really give your 530d one hell of a work out if you are losing traction in the bone dry.
There are a number of factors that can impact it though. Road condition, weather, damping, power characteristics, pressures, right foot, pace etc. The reality is it's never a problem as such and is rare not common, but on certain roads that are perhaps less than 'sorted' the current tyres give way a little quicker than the previous ones. I also, when perhaps travelling very early morning, drop the traction off and slide the car around. I use a heavy right foot to induce oversteer, which frankly I enjoy doing, but save for when no one is around and only in areas where I know them well and am away from the madding crowd, which my drive home provides.
Any recommendations for what tyres are good on 205/55 R16? I imagine it's a pretty common size so there should be a good selection. I mostly do motorway miles but trying to pick something with an OK wear rate that is quiet and fuel efficient. I'm guessing I can pick two of the three...
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They don't seem to do CS5's in your size. But they so CPC 5's
Camskill - £61 a corner
CS5's available in your size
Camskill - £104 a corner
Thanks guys.
I was debating AS2s for the Lolvo, but the CS5s seem fairly well recommended
I've currently got both on my ST, I've had them both on the front 2 and the AS2's sidewalls are much softer, and have poor feedback in comparison to the CS5s. Wet and dry grip performance are very similar, and wear rate also seems to be similar.
Well I always remember when you followed me once in the 911 and you commented on how I was flinging it around in the wet. Do you remember as that was how much confidence the SuperSports inspired and with grip to back it up.
Had a lot of tyres on the 911 now, Michelin PS2, Michelin PSS, Michelin cup, Pirelli Pzero Rosso and the SuperSports are in a different league in wet performance. I've also had loan Boxsters/Caymans which were fitted with Pzero, F1AS2 and RE050A which were all driven in the wet and well though not identical cars, but similar for sure the SuperSports inspired a huge amount more confidence in the wet and were as grippy as the F1AS2 and Pzero, the RE050A was lacking in the wet though.
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Are Michelin P Super Sports that good? How do they compare against the PZeros?
I am currently using the Pirelli zero system (not Nero) as Pirelli designed it for my car originally with directional and assymetric combination...
good all rounder, good grip, feedback but dont use it in sub zero condition.
Years ago in a previous Starion I had Yokohamas A008 fitted by Colin Blower and found them to be brilliant, they were hard, noisy but gripped and gripped (in the dry as they were dry tyres but acceptable in the wet too as I still found them fine) and the feedback was superb. Best tyres I have owned.
Switched to Goodyear F1 Assym thinking all tyres were like that and maybe a softer ride and 30% cheaper too. They were softer, much quieter alright and good in the wet, that aside...a total disappointment (no feel and average grip). It did everything but nothing exceptional and prob fine for a luxury car. After that I switch to Falkens as they were 35% cheaper again and found the performance to be very similar to the Goodyear. Falkens being good as they were half the price of the Yokohamas and did what the GY did..
Since then A008 were only made in small sizes...maybe they were too hardcore??
Problem with tyres ...stuck with them for yrs
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Hey guys
Random question that didn't really warrant a topic.
Front right needs replacing, is it worth trying to use the same as on the front left or should I just scrap aesthetics and get the best performance/value I can?
Random question that didn't really warrant a topic.
Front right needs replacing, is it worth trying to use the same as on the front left or should I just scrap aesthetics and get the best performance/value I can?