Unofficial Tyre Thread

bitslice · 25 Jun 2015 at 13:14

Is there a Go-To tyre for good wear and economy?

Currently have Pirelli P6 and Pirelli P6000 which are now borderline,
I can't say I'm that impressed and they both get a beating in online reviews.

I'm probably not going to do 15K/yr any more and I'm not racing anywhere either,
so looking for something middling in price.

195/60 R15

paradigm · 25 Jun 2015 at 13:23

25k miles in on my ContiSportContact 5s.

Just about to be changed (literally this week).

Clarkey · 25 Jun 2015 at 13:31

You have an A4 tdi? If so, 25k is good going! A friend has one as do a few of his work colleagues, they get 8-10k out of the fronts tops.

bitslice · 25 Jun 2015 at 13:39

Just looking at wheels on ebay,
has anyone just bought a second hand set of wheels instead of new tyres?
it seems like the wheels come free.

paradigm · 25 Jun 2015 at 13:43

Clarkey said:
You have an A4 tdi? If so, 25k is good going! A friend has one as do a few of his work colleagues, they get 8-10k out of the fronts tops.

I do indeed, yes.

Rears have unfortunately already been changed (due to an irreparable puncture in one, and I won't swap a single tyre on an axle), but that was only 2k~ miles ago.

He must drive round with his bum on fire (which is relatively pointless in a 2.0TDi A4).

Firestar_3x · 25 Jun 2015 at 16:44

Very good going, after 12k my fronts are just about ready for a change.

melchy · 28 Jun 2015 at 11:06

gobbo said:
Struggling a little here with finding decent tyres for my MX-5, 205/45/16

F1A2 don't appear to be available in that size, but GSD3 are (but ancient now), only other option is Michelin PS3 but they are also a fairly old tyre now IIRC

I have a set of F1A2 on the back of my Clio 182, but now that I'm looking to replace the Hankooks on the front I can't find the F1A2 in that size anywhere. I hope they haven't stopped making then in that size.

melchy · 28 Jun 2015 at 11:10

Tyreleader seems to have them.

http://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/goodyear/eagle-f1-asymmetric-2/205-45-r16-83y-61608

missrenaultclio · 29 Jun 2015 at 14:40

mot failure on front tires

Hey don't know if this should be here or on a specific thread just let me know and I will amend.
So my car had 4 new tyres Goodyear ones fitted in Feb of this year and 2 front break pads fitted 2 weeks ago. And the mechanic looked it over and said there was nothing on the car that looked in bad condition as I mentioned I had an mot due.
I have had my Mot done today and it failed due to " tyre has lump caused by separation or partial failure of structure" on both front tyres :-(

totally shocked by this as it was fine 2 weeks ago??
What causes this?? Could the fitting of the breakpads or putting the tyres back on wrong do this??
I'm lost and looking for answers :-(

slick rick · 29 Jun 2015 at 16:25

missrenaultclio said:
Hey don't know if this should be here or on a specific thread just let me know and I will amend.
So my car had 4 new tyres Goodyear ones fitted in Feb of this year and 2 front break pads fitted 2 weeks ago. And the mechanic looked it over and said there was nothing on the car that looked in bad condition as I mentioned I had an mot due.
I have had my Mot done today and it failed due to " tyre has lump caused by separation or partial failure of structure" on both front tyres totally shocked by this as it was fine 2 weeks ago??
What causes this?? Could the fitting of the breakpads or putting the tyres back on wrong do this??
I'm lost and looking for answers

Where did you get the tyres from mate? I have seen a few places offer a free guarantee for the lifetime of the tyre so defiantly worth checking as it could be a manufacturing defect. I think bulges are usually caused by a manufacturing defect or from impact damage, with a pot hole for example.

roadie · 29 Jun 2015 at 23:06

Any thoughts on the new breed of tyres like the Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance and Dunlop Sport Bluresponse against the more established Goodyear Eagle F1 Asy 2 and Dunlop Sport Maxx RT?

N43SP33D · 30 Jun 2015 at 13:26

lads I have a choice of tyres for my supra

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric £120
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 £130
Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta £117

I need a set of 4, which one do you recommend? I have had Eagle F1 on my civic vti years ago and they were awesome tyres. a lot of people rate the Vredestein but there rating is lower compared to the Eagle F1s

Gaygle · 30 Jun 2015 at 20:52

missrenaultclio said:
Hey don't know if this should be here or on a specific thread just let me know and I will amend.
So my car had 4 new tyres Goodyear ones fitted in Feb of this year and 2 front break pads fitted 2 weeks ago. And the mechanic looked it over and said there was nothing on the car that looked in bad condition as I mentioned I had an mot due.
I have had my Mot done today and it failed due to " tyre has lump caused by separation or partial failure of structure" on both front tyres totally shocked by this as it was fine 2 weeks ago??
What causes this?? Could the fitting of the breakpads or putting the tyres back on wrong do this??
I'm lost and looking for answers

It's likely that you have hit a speed bump too hard would be my guess. It would very unusual to get two tyres failing, let alone failing at the same time in the same way. Tyres can normally take a kicking but the only thing likely to kill them is a big pot hole or a speed bump, possibly in combination with not using correct tyre pressures.

roadie said:
Any thoughts on the new breed of tyres like the Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance and Dunlop Sport Bluresponse against the more established Goodyear Eagle F1 Asy 2 and Dunlop Sport Maxx RT?

The Dunlops and the Efficient Grip Performance tyres are both very good performing tyres, but they just aren't made for the same market. These are touring tyres, whereas a Goodyear Eagle F1A2 is an ultra high performance tyre with grip and feel at the forefront of it's construction.

N43SP33D said:
lads I have a choice of tyres for my supra

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric £120
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 £130
Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta £117

I need a set of 4, which one do you recommend? I have had Eagle F1 on my civic vti years ago and they were awesome tyres. a lot of people rate the Vredestein but there rating is lower compared to the Eagle F1s

Eagle F1 A2 without a doubt. Not even sure why you're looking at the Asymmetric as I think they stopped producing these years ago and will be old stock. The Ultra Sessanta's aren't bad, but for 13 quid more per tyre - the F1A2's make complete sense over them.

N43SP33D · 30 Jun 2015 at 21:06

Cheers dude, I was going towards the Vredestein but if the Asy 2 is the better then I do not mind paying the extra cash for it.

Jano · 1 Jul 2015 at 16:34

Are Michelin PS3's still a decent tyre? With the £50 off a set of 4 at Costco they are coming up significantly cheaper than any other decently branded tyre, my only reservation is they seem to be a few years old now.

roadie · 1 Jul 2015 at 19:12

Gaygle said:
The Dunlops and the Efficient Grip Performance tyres are both very good performing tyres, but they just aren't made for the same market. These are touring tyres, whereas a Goodyear Eagle F1A2 is an ultra high performance tyre with grip and feel at the forefront of it's construction.

I had thought that might be the case, but the touring style tyres seem to perform better than the performance style tyres.

Here's what looks like a fairly evidence based test on a similar car to mine with the same tyre size:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91856/tyre-reviews-best-tyres-2015

The Eagles and Maxx RTs seem to be a little cheaper from the research I have done. Perhaps this is born due to their performance?

[TW]Fox · 1 Jul 2015 at 19:18

roadie said:
I had thought that might be the case, but the touring style tyres seem to perform better than the performance style tyres.

They do not - the performance tyres will offer superior grip at the expense of wear rate.

For reasons I won't bore you with I have two sets of 19 inch wheels for my 530d, one has Goodyear Excellence touring tyres all round the other Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's all round. The F1A2 is noticeably better especially in the wet grip wise.

roadie · 1 Jul 2015 at 20:53

How might you explain the Auto Express test where the Dunlop Sport BluResponse outperforms the Goodyear Eagle?

I am genuinely interested, as my car has 4 mismatched tyres (one with a slow puncture) that I am considering replacing with better tyres. I know the Eagle is highly recommended here and on the forum specific to my car, but I am trying to see if there has been a tyre developed more recently that could be better.

[TW]Fox · 1 Jul 2015 at 21:03

roadie said:
How might you explain the Auto Express test where the Dunlop Sport BluResponse outperforms the Goodyear Eagle?

Because they don't publish actual results, they merely group tyres into grades.

The BluReponse beat the F1 because whilst they were both ranked 'A' for wet grip the BlueReponse had lower rolling radius, delivering better fuel economy, as you'd expect for a Touring tyre.

What we don't know is which tyre was best in the wet - but I'd put money on it being the Goodyear, not the Dunlop. The Dunlop could have been right on the boundry and the Eagle F1 could have topped the tables for all we know.

Which would make sense - Goodyear and Dunlop are the same firm and they are unlikely to develop a touring tyre that beats the flagship UHP tyre, what would be the point?

roadie · 1 Jul 2015 at 21:11

This page ranks tyres as a percentage of the top performer, with the methodology explained in my previous link.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/91870/tyre-test-2015-results-by-category

It really does seem to suggest that the Dunlop is superior to the Goodyear (at least in 225/45 on a Golf in this particular test) in all categories other than straight and wet aquaplaning and price.

It's puzzling, as you point out.

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