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Value & worth

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Diddums, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Terminal_Boy


    Joined: Apr 13, 2013

    Posts: 7,294

    Location: La France

    I used to really begrudge having to spent time gardening or doing DIY at the weekend after working 50 hour weeks with another 10 hours of commuting added on top, but I grew to appreciate seeing the improvements we made and getting to complete a project without being messed about by managers or suppliers.

    Just as well really, now I have an acre of gardens and 3 buildings to look after.
  2. Maccy


    Joined: Nov 23, 2004

    Posts: 35,688

    Location: Back in Blighty

    **** sake Marv, don't do this to me :(
  3. Hades


    Joined: Oct 19, 2002

    Posts: 23,070

    Location: Pizza Express, Woking

    Time is the one thing you can't get more of. As long as you can cover your bills then spend the time doing what you want.
  4. Marvt74


    Joined: Feb 20, 2004

    Posts: 13,238

    Location: Higher Walton


    That's my philosophical deed done for the day.
  5. Freakbro


    Joined: Jul 29, 2010

    Posts: 15,643

    Location: Lincs

    I've always valued Life more in the Work / Life balance problem.

    To the degree that I have recently jacked in one of my jobs, which was about 40% of my income, to get more life back and it was the best decision I have made in a long time. Admittedly working multiple jobs these last 8 years has allowed me to save a considerable amount and I'm now financially independent and even though I was only working about 40 hrs a week (which was a lot for me :p ) I'm now down to 15 - 20 hrs per week and I love it! :D
  6. Diddums


    Joined: Oct 24, 2012

    Posts: 18,736

    Location: London

    You’ve gotta manage your expectations Maccy, has he ever contributed anything of worth?
  7. Danm54

    Wise Guy

    Joined: May 20, 2009

    Posts: 1,694

    I look at jobs in a similar way. I'm all for doing my own work and saving money where possible but for some things it's just not beneficial.

    Household jobs and vehicle maintenance don't bother me, but sometimes I'd rather pay for someone to do it in half the time while I'm working and earning similar money to what the work costs. I may not have saved money but I've saved time.
  8. G-MAN2004


    Joined: Jul 4, 2004

    Posts: 29,693

    Does she not realise it'd cost more than £5 in fuel? Women...
  9. Ahleckz


    Joined: Nov 7, 2009

    Posts: 17,439

    Location: Glasgow

    This sums it up. I have no issue spending hundreds of pounds on dinner at a restaurant, £10+ on one can of beer etc.
    However, I won't spend more than £50 on shoes, happy to wear Tesco suit trousers to work and would rather walk 20 minutes than pay for a taxi.

    It doesn't make sense really once you think about it and it bemuses my girlfriend but I feel that I can afford the expensive beers and dinners because I save in other areas whereas I could probably afford everything.

    On a similar note, I took a £20k drop (£50k - £30k) to go from working 70 odd hours a week over 6 days to 40 hours over 5. It was the best thing that I've done and I'm much happier and don't miss the money.
  10. Diddums


    Joined: Oct 24, 2012

    Posts: 18,736

    Location: London

    Women are idiots. One gave birth to me and decided to devote her life to me for 21 years all on her own. Another one decided to marry me and make sure I stay out of trouble, if that doesn’t tell you all you need to know then nothing will.
  11. billysielu


    Joined: Aug 9, 2009

    Posts: 11,443

    Location: Oxfordshire

    I think time is worthless.
    I trade skills (not time) for money via employment.
    I won't spend money to get more free time.
  12. K-2


    Joined: Dec 4, 2002

    Posts: 237

    Location: Glasgow, UK

    How big is this bedroom?
  13. touch


    Joined: Oct 28, 2006

    Posts: 11,224

    Location: Sufferlandria

    You would have spent less time just driving the 200 miles than you spent on the argument about it.
  14. Diddums


    Joined: Oct 24, 2012

    Posts: 18,736

    Location: London

    I still haven’t won :(
  15. The_Abyss


    Joined: May 15, 2007

    Posts: 11,986

    Location: Ipswich / Bodham

    What a **** post. You come across as a complete ****. Presumably that was the intention - get a bit of 'alpha at all costs' out on the internet this morning.
  16. The_Abyss


    Joined: May 15, 2007

    Posts: 11,986

    Location: Ipswich / Bodham

    I think I'm pretty much the polar opposite of 2/3 if this.

    I place huge value on time. I work fairly hard and both my wife and I are paid well in return, but that inevitably has a time cost attached to it. So we do spend money to get more time back as it represents a good return for our money and gives us the extra time that we have. So we have a cleaner and someone else does the decorating. I used to service my cars and motorbike myself - now they get serviced at a dealer (although I couldn't service these modern things myself anyway!). I also spend money to have better quality time, e.g. doing the things that we really want to do, see and experience rather than staring at a TV on a day off.

    So @Diddums , I think I'm with you. I value time equally alongside worth, and one is a means to end for another.
  17. krooton


    Joined: May 9, 2004

    Posts: 25,554

    Location: Leafy outskirts of London

    £3.10 per free hour, after taking sleep and commute out of the equation.

    So yeah, mowing the lawn and cleaning the house myself is definitely worth it. :p
  18. JBuk


    Joined: Nov 28, 2002

    Posts: 10,968

    Location: Cumbria

    About 2.6m x 4.8m

    Work involves priming, filling & sanding all woodwork (2 door frames, skirting, windowsill) , glossing and emulsion all walls

    A few days work for me, a day for the decorator, I can do 5 hrs work and that covers all costs
  19. inogen


    Joined: Jul 19, 2009

    Posts: 3,720

    The trick for doing chores is either to live in the moment and concentrate on what your doing and nothing else. Do it the best you can. Then it becomes enjoyable. The other way is to practice something well enough so you can switch off your brain and think of nothing. Again. Enjoyable. Both increase dopamine levels and therefore happiness.

    The problem people have (like everyone) is when you decide whatever it is your about to do is a PITA and just pay enough attention to it get it done badly. That's just not fun or constructive on any level and produces cortisol which makes you stressed and annoyed.
  20. geekman


    Joined: Sep 28, 2012

    Posts: 3,282

    Location: Monterrey, Mexico

    I tend to just think of it in terms of what I earn, and what my strengths and weaknesses are.

    I’m not very good at cleaning, and I earn more per hour than I pay our cleaner, so it makes sense to have one. If I had to pay her considerably more than I earned, we wouldn’t have one.

    I’m currently sitting on a very cold floor at LAX airport, having sat here for several hours. Saved us $200 for a hotel we’d only have stayed in for a few hours, and I’d have had to pay a taxi there and back, so call it $250. To me, the discomfort is worth it as I’d have to do a fair bit of work to earn that money back, and we’d have less to spend at our destination. I’m sure many others would think we were crazy.