Valve Index 2 (codenamed Deckard) Standalone

wunkley said:
Will someone, somewhere, please make a decent new PC VR headset that isn't gimped in some glaringly obvious way.
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the problem as I understand it is there are only so many places you can source hi-res uOled modules and those that do make them want to sell in volume to the likes of Apple for $$$

so we need a break though in displays to land something like a MeganeX with decent fov before Hypervision pancake lenses even come into play

most people seem to think its a good 3yrs out
 
The Pimax Dream Air seems to be the nearest thing to my wishlist, aside from the FOV being a bit disappointimg. But, and it's a huuuuge but - it's Pimax! Never had a Pimax headset but from what I read and hear recently it's about 50/50 that you'll get one with problems (Crystal Light anyway). Which is just beyond idiotic.
 
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I'd buy Pimax again but only from a place with a rock solid returns policy and reputation i.e. not Pimax. About the new Deckard rumours I've heard so many now which came to nothing I don't attach any significance to them, melmac summed it up about right imo.
 
wunkley said:
All I want is just one headset with:

- OLED panel
- Display port
- A resolution that gives 35ppd
- Pancake or aspheric lenses
- ~120 degree FOV
- Built in tracking
- Decent built in sound
- Controllers as good as PSVR2
- Cost less than ~£700

That's it. It's not a lot to ask for really given it's nearly 2025 is it? Also there are now numerous headsets flying around at the moment and some new announcements, all dancing around the obvious above specs to make and no one's making it.

I've recently got the PSVR2 and it's on the way to the ideal specs for me, but the fresnel lenses, lack of resolution and the mura issue of that particular OLED panel hold it back. But it's cheap (got mine new in the recent sale) and for the money, it's brilliant! It also has features like eye tracking and haptic feedback, and even HDR which you wouldn't get in super high end headsets. I know the latter features don't work on PC, yet, but I have a feeling they might soon enough.

The Pimax Super looks like it could be 'the one', but it's going to cost £2k and you'll need more than a 5090 to do it justice. And Pimax seem to have a terrible reputation for build quality and quality control. No way I'm laying out that sort of money on something sketchy.
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All that plus stand alone wireless; headsets that need a PC and Windows to work are history at this point and stand alone is what sells

Luckily that's what Deckard is; a stand alone VR headset that runs SteamOS. Valve is doing for VR what they did with the SteamDeck
 
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lets hope.
PCvr still has a market and i think the Deckard is meant to work with PC as well isnt it?
way windows is going i feel its heading fora fall :/ so im fo standalone and would be happy to make the move.
 
melmac said:
Yeah sure, another Deckard rumour. A year before the Index was launched, Valve had sent out devkits. We had actual pictures of the prototypes for the headset and the controllers.

And now I am supposed to believe that the Deckard is coming in 2025 and it's going to cost $1200. And all we have for details is the same leaked info from the past few years and some photoshopped pictures of controllers.

It's all data mined information. Where are the prototypes? Where are the Dev Kits? There has been nothing "real" leaked yet. Like according to the rumours the Roy controllers have been in mass production for the last months. Yet we don't have a single picture or video of one. It's just photoshopped pictures and 3d renders based off prototype drawings.
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From what I'm hearing it is just a rumour, seems like a not so carefully planned "leaking of data" from their media team. Just enough to keep people interested but not enough to give any concrete evidence. If it all turns out to be true, I'm sure as f not dropping £1k+. I'm more interested in the Deckard 3D printing options which have started to pop up online, saw a post on reddit about this some months ago, if we only we could 3D print this stuff instead. Speaking of, I saw an article about holographic developments and how they've sped it the process up to just a few seconds now, testing on a variety of 3D elements like this. Seems easy and a talking point on whether this can be used with some other Valve products in the future.
 
Vrmasterclass said:
From what I'm hearing it is just a rumour, seems like a not so carefully planned "leaking of data" from their media team. Just enough to keep people interested but not enough to give any concrete evidence. If it all turns out to be true, I'm sure as f not dropping £1k+. I'm more interested in the Deckard 3D printing options which have started to pop up online, saw a post on reddit about this some months ago, if we only we could 3D print this stuff instead. Speaking of, I saw an article about holographic developments and how they've sped it the process up to just a few seconds now, testing on a variety of 3D elements like this. Seems easy and a talking point on whether this can be used with some other Valve products in the future.
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Hi, welcome to the VR forum, I admit I know not much about 3D printing but 3D printing a high end VR headset? that's...ambitious :D
 
Haha very true, though I expect I need to sell it well otherwise I'm in the dog house :cry:
 
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i think my only worry would be the inability to lay down with the head set based on the images, i regularly watch stuff laying down when i dont feel like sitting and watching.
 
I see there have been a few more Deckard rumour news stories this week, with talk of closed door briefings soon.
Whilst I understand the market demands standalone, I hope it will still have a direct DisplayPort mode for PCVR.
 
Usage is an interesting question.
Anyone know the stats for how many VR headsets that are in regular use are used for PCVR vs standalone?
 
IT Troll said:
I see there have been a few more Deckard rumour news stories this week, with talk of closed door briefings soon.
Whilst I understand the market demands standalone, I hope it will still have a direct DisplayPort mode for PCVR.
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one rumour is that it's shipping with a wifi dongle, who knows if they'll keep the displayport
 
it would make sence to have the option of a wired conenction/displayport.
theres a reason Virtual Desktop is popular.
whats not clear is if the wifi dongle is a special video wifi optimised connection or if its just for standard wifi.
it sounds a bit silly to me to not have wifi built in by default. give expected use case(s)
 
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