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Vega 56 worth it at around £200?

robfosters said:
If you need to save that hard for £20, would you really be into PC gaming in the first place?

It’s sadly not a cheap hobby.
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Once upon a time £180 got you a top tier card.. OK its moved on since then but paying around a grand for that bracket now takes the biscuit. For a single component in a machine it shouldnt have to be an expensive hobby to play games at a reasonable standard.
 
Well, I've been watching this thread, I'd been waiting for Navi hoping for something in the ,£250 to £300 bracket.

I feel a bit uneasy getting a blower card as my last one died with lots of use.

At the same time it's hard for me to pick a ,£270, when the Vega 64 blower is , ,£300.

I will wait and see what happens. Vega will likely end up out of stock and I will just give in and buy a 570 leave it a few years to upgrade and just put up with meh performance.
 
Over an extra £20 (£10 of which I found under the bed last night) I've ordered a sapphire pulse, I feel guilty, but I'll see what it's like when it turns up and decide whether to keep it
 
Th0nt said:
Once upon a time £180 got you a top tier card.. OK its moved on since then but paying around a grand for that bracket now takes the biscuit. For a single component in a machine it shouldnt have to be an expensive hobby to play games at a reasonable standard.
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I don't rememeber current generation ever being that inexpensive, I paid in the region of £230- £250 for a GTX280 and GTX680 and both we EOL clearance deals from OCUK at much reduced prices along with many midrange cards for £200 - £300.

Vega clearance of ~ £250 is about the ball park, there were some cheaper cards but that was due to a hosting platform offering a 20% discount and the vendor actually removed a lot of their items yesterday, mid way through the promotion and before they sold out as I guess they were taking losses. There may be some individual deals to come if there is off loading of channel inventory, however given the price of the RX580/90, I don't see Vega getting much lower without a similar promotion.

With a bit of competition between AMD and Nvidia we should see Navi launch pricing drop and the lower end RTX become a little cheaper, however with 8GB of expensive GDDR6, VAT, dollar exchange rate etc. I think we are likely stuck with a £300+ midrange.

Still we're now in a world where everyone wants 2/3/4k resolution, >144 FPS and all the details.

My current RX580 is very playable at 1440p if I don't push all the details up high, at 1080p, still one of the most common resolutions its a very capable card for ~£170+
 
My current RX580 is very playable at 1440p if I don't push all the details up high, at 1080p, still one of the most common resolutions its a very capable card for ~£170+


Yep.
 
I would be worried about prices going up when navi launches.
The Vega 56 might only be 20% slower, say, but could be £130 cheaper than the blower cards.
So people will jump for the Vega 56 when Navi is released
 
decto said:
I don't rememeber current generation ever being that inexpensive
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In 1999 I bought an Nvidia Riva TNT2 when it first came out for £99.99. The Ultra version was £149.99. That was Nvidia's full line up. There was nothing faster.

If you take inflation into account, £99.99 is like £172 now. The Ultra version would be £250.

I've just bought a Vega 56 for £200 which sits nicely in the price range above. I don't understand why anyone would feel happy about spending more that £250 on a GPU today.
 
Well it worked for @easyrider so I'll try my luck...

@Gibbo : if you would like to put the price of the Pulse down to £250 I'll gladly take one off your hands :p

Just can't bring myself to go north of £250 :(
 
FoxEye said:
Well it worked for @easyrider so I'll try my luck...

@Gibbo : if you would like to put the price of the Pulse down to £250 I'll gladly take one off your hands :p

Just can't bring myself to go north of £250 :(
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I've gone from a 970 to a sapphire pulse, really happy with the upgrade, for the sake of £20 it's worth it, especially if you have a freesync monitor :)
 
Tbh this might be the last PC GPU I ever buy.

With the "mid-range" now costing $400 - $600, I just don't live on the same planet as the (the manufacturers) do. Mid-range used to be £150-£240 ish. That's low(est) end now :/
 
FoxEye said:
Tbh this might be the last PC GPU I ever buy.

With the "mid-range" now costing $400 - $600, I just don't live on the same planet as the (the manufacturers) do. Mid-range used to be £150-£240 ish. That's low(est) end now :/
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I've ordered, knowing that I won't order another until it's either a 400% performance boost, or it's required by either *good* 3D (or 4K screens). And since I'm not even considering replacing my 1080 or buying anything 3D, I'm feeling safe in the knowledge that by the time it matters the market will be completely different. Again.
 
FoxEye said:
Tbh this might be the last PC GPU I ever buy.

With the "mid-range" now costing $400 - $600, I just don't live on the same planet as the (the manufacturers) do. Mid-range used to be £150-£240 ish. That's low(est) end now :/
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The 1660ti can be had for £250, the Red Dragon Vega 56 can be had for £265, the 1660 can be had for £190 and the RX 580 can be had for £145 (although that expires today PM me if you need details)

So I would argue all of those are mid range products.

Also TBF to the manufacturers Vega lost money and the pound is worth less so everything will cost more. IF we could buy $2 for a pound the new Navi 5700XT would be around £300 but we voted for Brexit
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
The 1660ti can be had for £250, the Red Dragon Vega 56 can be had for £265, the 1660 can be had for £190 and the RX 580 can be had for £145 (although that expires today PM me if you need details)

So I would argue all of those are mid range products.

Also TBF to the manufacturers Vega lost money and the pound is worth less so everything will cost more. IF we could buy $2 for a pound the new Navi 5700XT would be around £300 but we voted for Brexit
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We wouldn't be able to buy at £300 before the vote.
We've not been 2:1 since before the crash, and then the problems on that are because we've been crap as a country.
Sure our currency's about 20% less than it should be because of the vote.

5700XT's an inflated price for mid range. The RX 580's really old and needs a performance replacement. Nvidia have stalled on that segment as well.
 
ANDREW GREEN said:
The 1660ti can be had for £250, the Red Dragon Vega 56 can be had for £265, the 1660 can be had for £190 and the RX 580 can be had for £145 (although that expires today PM me if you need details)

So I would argue all of those are mid range products.

Also TBF to the manufacturers Vega lost money and the pound is worth less so everything will cost more. IF we could buy $2 for a pound the new Navi 5700XT would be around £300 but we voted for Brexit
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Rubbish. Yes sterling has fallen. But it was roughly $1.30 before the referendum. It was last $2 in 2008. They are expensive because that's what the manufacturers can sell them for.
 
Hades said:
Rubbish. Yes sterling has fallen. But it was roughly $1.30 before the referendum. It was last $2 in 2008. They are expensive because that's what the manufacturers can sell them for.
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It was heading to $1.50 before Sunderland result (Or at least predicted)
The actual closing figures on the day are meant to be $1.44 before referendum.

Either way, nowhere close to $1.30.
 
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