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VEGA IS FINALLY HERE, ITS IN STOCK ALONG WITH SOME EPIC BUNDLES & FREESYNC DEALS!!

Dicehunter said:
Like literally THE same exact card manufacturer but one which costs a tenner more comes with the "free" games, I'm sorry but that just stinks to high heaven of pure greed, There's being a money making business and then there's just being plain greedy, For a measly tenner.

To be clear my disdain is towards AMD not OCUK.
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Wasn't it Gibbo telling everyone(literally everyone not just the forum) that AMD only allocated a certain amount for sale without the packs and the rest have to be sold with the packs, which is now turning out to be bs, also being told they would make a loss to sell at RRP with again several other sources now saying nothing has changed price wise.

It's looking increasingly like retailers jacking up prices, blaming AMD and AMD get the hate while OCUK and the other retailers get the benjamins. Also apparently VEga 64 £60 over rrp, AMD the end of the world what are they doing. 1070 £60 over rrp... literally no mention at all and no care by anyone. It's almost like retailers and the same old people who post in every forum with anti AMD bile are doing the same thing as always.

This all ignores the fact that a Vega 56 will be cheaper than a 1080 and undervolted appears to use less power and is faster than a 1080 too.

Vega 56/64 appear to be, take a 1080, put it to max clock and max volts, release, where the 1080 is back off say 7-10% in clocks, 35% in power and you have where the 1080 is launched, at it's optimum voltage/clock point. Why AMD don't sell them at the optimum point I don't know as people have less reason to dump on them and also get to 'overclock' more.
 
Steampunk said:
So AMD lays the blame squarely with the retailers.
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AMD are talking out their backside, multiple retailers have come forward and said they can't even buy the GPUs for the alleged $499 RRP (one even showing it's invoice from an AMD distribution centre), AMD can blow hot air all they like about how they think it should be $499 but as they are charging retailers more than that for the card and only making it available to consumers via a limited supply of rebates to retailers to cover their losses then it's rubbish.
 
Aurhinius said:
Honestly who would by a VEGA....
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Mostly people who use their PC for more than gaming, I mean at the launch price it cost the same as a GTX1080, gamed like one and ran applications like a 1080ti, that's a pretty good combination. Add to that supporting the VHS of the adaptive sync world and it was a pretty sweet deal if you didn't mind an extra £10 a year on the electric bill.
 
pagepack said:
So the question is why are they still so overpriced? Obviously miners are not buying them in droves, nor are gamers. AMD are running out of ideas how to spin this.
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If AMD are creating a false reality which will last another month or two, once they have collected more profit, it could suggest they will drop back to the £450 price, i hope.
 
450 next year I think also but it'd be dull if that wasnt true. Volta is next year, so theres only a few months there where its in the balance.
The argument is simple, volume sales are available or naturally market creates a higher price. AMD itself wants volume sales, all their highest staff talk their book in billion dollar figures and you only get that with mass production
Nvidia right now = cW8vF1b.gif
Stanners said:
The 56 is faster than a 1080?

edit: I presume you mean a 1070?

https://www.techspot.com/review/1476-amd-radeon-vega-64/
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False equivalence. A very much stock 1080 might be beaten by godlike oc skills on v56 sometimes in some games with a wind behind it maybe in a david and the goliath way :p In 6 months we might amazed how they unleashed vega features, who knows a fanboi can dream :D
I think the v56 is fine for people on 1080p and v64 is possibly made a few on 4k a little glum AMD hasnt mastered the power draw at top end. It may come down to some wonder AIB card to really prove the case for Vega top end. If I was sitting with a decent 4k (or ultra widescreen) setup already I believe I'd wait for that perfect card to be designed, released October? and reviewed independently before I went in.
As it is my setup barely runs 720p now, I'll be happy with v56 on its most conservative power saving bios its an easy choice for me. Bonus then would be if AMD pulls out some nice driver recipes with the ingredients in Vega, I see 1070 as safer choice maybe but more boring, older tech plus freesync is nice option
 
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