Warnings for 2012

[Angilion]

Can I ask guys, how does the sun "burn" without oxygen... NASA has to do a funny mix of chemicals to get fire in space. I just couldn't figure a reason out. I know it's gasses but ultimately oxygen is needed for fire.

Sorry if I seem a bit retarded.

It doesn't burn at all, really. It's basically a very large nuclear bomb continually exploding, using hundreds of tonnes of fuel per second. Hydrogen atoms are rammed together so hard by temperature and pressure that the forces repelling them are overwhelmed and they fuse into helium atoms. Incomprehensible amounts of energy are "spare" to the resulting helium atoms and radiate away. Seriously incomprehensible - if I remember correctly, one second's energy output from the sun is more than the energy usage of humanity in a hundred million years.

In case you're wondering why this mega-bomb doesn't violently disperse all over the place - the force outwards is balanced by the force inwards caused by the mavity of the sun.

This is fine until it uses up its fuel. It will then collapse under its own mavity, which will increase the pressure at the core enough to fuse heavier elements, which will make the outwards force greater than the inwards force, causing it to balloon out into a red giant and destroy much of the solar system. Which won't happen by 2012 There's still a few billion years worth of hydrogen left.

 

[Angilion]

Time to stock up on solar panels people!

Edit - To millsy and huddy, effectively we might end up seeing more than 24 hours per day? Give or take a few minutes.

One day is actually slightly less than 24 hours due to the orbit of the Earth around the sun. One complete rotation of the Earth is 24 hours, but a day is defined by the apparent position of the sun from the same point on Earth.

Strange but true.

 

[Hilly]

Haha Margaret, made me laugh!

This thread is pure facepalm.

 

[Kennysevenfold]

ill weather the storm tbh

 

[Duff-Man]

Ok, I need to set some priorities here. Can someone help me rank my things-to-worry-about in order so that I can allocate the appropriate amount of time to fretting over each of them?

I know we have:

The big solar storm
Peak oil
The giant volcano under Yellowstone Park
That asteroid/meteor that's going to either nearly hit us or kill us all
The black hole that's going to be created by the Large Hardon Collider when it's working properly again
Global warming/global dimming
The coming ice age
Bird flu
MRSA/VRSA
The dying bees
Terrorism/the axis of weevils/rogue nukes

Be great if I could plan my day's worrying effectively. Cheers!

I think this is the best post I've read all week

*Applause*

 

[Amp34]

I was just thinking last night, can they not just stick breakers between the wires and substations? When a warning of a storm come (which can be forecast hours ahead) they just disconnect the wires from the stations and tell everyone to unplug their electrical items for a few hours.

Sorted...

 

[Fido McNasty]

When you're faced with calamity... When there is no more good left in the world... When all attempts to reason it all out fail, and, if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A team.

They will fashion a new and better planet for us all from a rusty old piece of steel L section and a couple of nails using a hammer and a saw. It will take a few minutes in a wooden shed.

Then everything will be alright.

 

[Darkst4r]

Even if it is all rubbish, the description of it does seem pretty horrendous! Humanity would just panic, I rekon over half the world's population would die out, without electricity, the world cannot function, simple as that.

It managed quite well for thousands of years before it was discovered.

 

[Berserker]

The science is sound. The predictions, like the Daily Mail, just plain fail. Again.

A big enough blob of CME could indeed do the things suggested. There are countermeasures (based on the faraday cage principle), so putting your computers inside your car may save them. Whether there is power or an internet available when you take them out, well good luck with that.

The chances of it happening in 2012 are only slightly higher than the chances of it happening next week. At least we know it won't happen tomorrow - NASA currently have craft in orbit that they believe will give 24 hours warning of an incoming CME.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Eh, thought we were already in the dark ages

 

[Tefal]

Why warnings? I thought you said 2012 was going to be a great thing? and that it's only for those not in the know that see it as bad?

Yes I feel the change happening within me. Don't want to go to much into my past but since 1999-2000 a lot of strange things have happened in my life. I've been through major shifts in awareness and feel my consciousness expanding.

I never really got into the 2012 until about 2 years when I came across it on the net, went on forums ect and found other people were having similar experiences and it seems to be a phenonema that's effecting lots of people. Like there's a big wave or monumental shift coming.

Already, like many others, i'm adjusting myself to this 'wave' by giving up drugs/drink and other superficial pursuits and letting go of old paradigms about the ways in which things should work particularly regarding money, politics and all the other evils we are taught are necesary.

This wave is going to hit more and more people as time goes over the next few years, but it will reach a point I think as time goes on, probably mid 2010 onwards where it'll be harder for those who haven't 'caught the wave' to get on it so to speak. These are the people for whom 2012 may be percieved as cataclysmic or apocalypic.

edit: while trying to find that quote i did come across these gems

That's a very crude question to a very deep and complex issue. I've seen UFO's about three times in my life. They are real, they are here (not publicy though) and possibly have been for quite a long time (at least 5000 years).

All I can say is the communication was to some degree telepathic and they used symbolism. The technology they had seem to transcend that of physcial reality it goes into metaphysics and consciousness. It's hard to put into words what they said becuase it transcended the dualistic and sequential nature of our language and also many of the preconceptions we have about reality and the universe.

 

[J.B]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencea...mest-for-nearly-a-century-say-scientists.html

Is this the prelude to the big event?

Nice one Tefal, do you ever take a night off?!

 

[Berserker]

That article looks strangely familiar.

The Sun normally undergoes an 11-year cycle of activity. At its peak, it has a tumultuous boiling atmosphere that spits out flares and planet-sized chunks of super-hot gas. This is followed by a calmer period.

The Sun normally undergoes an 11-year cycle of activity. At its peak, it has a tumultuous boiling atmosphere that spits out flares and planet-sized chunks of super-hot gas. This is followed by a calmer period.

Coincidence or conspiracy?

BBC story

 

[Antelopethy]

rofl, this guy should get his own subforum.

But then I'd never read GD, or indeed any other forum than magick's

 

[LOAM]

Is this the prelude to the big event?

The sun us clearly constipated, In a few years it will release the equivalent of a huge Solar **** and fire it towards us

 

[bledd]

they never have a warning for "Next week warning, omgzzzz"

always a few years away so everyone forgets the nutjob theories by then

 

[jrodga2k5]

Has anyone seen the knowing? This is the same thing

Yep we all just die, apart from the chosen of course

 

[Tefal]

they never have a warning for "Next week warning, omgzzzz"

always a few years away so everyone forgets the nutjob theories by then

there was a guy who made a few threads saying America was going to nuke it';s self in November a a year or two ago, but because people on teh interwebs found out about it it never happened >.<

Oh and according to teki this year garlic herbs and tap water are going to be banned and become prescription only drugs when the evil world health organisation bans them for the evil pharmaceutical companies.

 

[p4radox]

there was a guy who made a few threads saying America was going to nuke it';s self in November a a year or two ago, but because people on teh interwebs found out about it it never happened >.<

Oh and according to teki this year garlic herbs and tap water are going to be banned and become prescription only drugs when the evil world health organisation bans them for the evil pharmaceutical companies.

I forgot about that one! Mind you, there are still 8 months left for garlic to be banned and Teki's prediction to come true.

 

[Skidder]

they never have a warning for "Next week warning, omgzzzz"

always a few years away so everyone has a chance to sell their books, create seminars and get on the radio in the US where they lap these nutjob theories up

Magick didn't bother replying to my earlier post questioning Michio Kaku's reasons for jumping on the 2012 bandwagon. Like so many of the conspiracy crowd he doesn't seem to feel the need for discussion.