Soldato
dont know how he didnt break his leg,that shin pad did its job there lol
Weekend Football 21/22 & 23rd ***SPOILERS***
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Well Congrats Man U, the league is yours (unless you throw it away)
We just aren't good enough, too many average players in the squad that fold when a challenge comes across
Next time I hear Benitez say "quality" about our squad, I'm going to smash my head through the nearest window.
We just aren't good enough, too many average players in the squad that fold when a challenge comes across
Next time I hear Benitez say "quality" about our squad, I'm going to smash my head through the nearest window.
Even if we did, we need you lot to lose 2 games.We ****ed it up just after the new year, just cant ****ing win at ahome.
Man of Honour
If Liverpool are ever in with a shout of winning the PL come February/March they'll romp it as they always finish the season really strongly, oh hang on....
Caporegime
Our passing was awful today as was our finishing which has been woeful all season. Without Alonso we have no rhythm to our passing and without Gerrard we have no drive and determination.
We've got some world class players and a good squad but it's the likes of Lucas, Dossena and Babel that bring our level down. Sadly we haven't got the players to cope with injuries and suspensions and that ultimately comes down to poor signings by Rafa.
Uniteds title now.
We've got some world class players and a good squad but it's the likes of Lucas, Dossena and Babel that bring our level down. Sadly we haven't got the players to cope with injuries and suspensions and that ultimately comes down to poor signings by Rafa.
Uniteds title now.
Up until this season our best runs have always come in the second half of the season. Now that we need a run like that it's not happening
Man of Honour
Up until this season our best runs have always come in the second half of the season. Now that we need a run like that it's not happening
I know and we normally hear in late May that if you'd started the season well you would have definitely won the league
Its a nice thought, but it smacks of more mathematical theory rather than reality. The kind of talk which TV channels throw out in order to keep people watching the matches.
Time will tell of course, by the end of the season we will know whether or not Utd drop enough points, but if I was being totally honest about it and keeping my feet firmly on the ground, then I would say its over. Any team other than utd at the top, in the form they are currently in, with the options they have for covering injured players and I might agree.
But utd , with their squad and current form, at the top, 7 points clear and it saddens me to say that its my belief that its over. Whether that belief will be proved right or not we shall soon know.
I think Rafa has had a lot to contend with behind the scenes, the in fighting has not helped. Nor has publically criticising the owners and Parry every chance he gets. He went overboard at the beginning of January, and on a weekly basis talks about Man Utd with the word 'fact' in the same sentence. In some ways he shares some traits with Ferguson, that 'everyone against us' mentality and being loyal to players who just don't regularly cut it in the first team. That said, the absolute worst thing Liverpool could do would be to sack him, he's obviously never going to walk out. He's not that type of man. I don't just think he has bottled it, but the players have too. They don't have a winning mentality, and no matter how hard Gerrard tries to carry them over that line, it won't happen until the rest of them truly believe they can win the league. Carragher was in the studio for the Man Utd - Chelsea game, 'we're just happy to still be in it'. Enough said. If Liverpool's most passionate player is just happy to be there near the top of the league, rather than believing they can win it, what hope do the rest of the players have. The players have let Rafa down, and Rafa is letting down Liverpool in the way he has been conducting himself in the media.
What are you talking about?
Why have we got West Ham again do we have to beat them 3 times in the league or something?
Caporegime
It'll continue to happen until Rafa gets sacked and the Amercians bring in their own yes man or we get new owners. If Rafa goes, any chance of Liverpool winning anything goes with him.
Soldato
I've highlighted some serious flaws in your logic there!
I'm not saying it's all sewn up already but With our form at current I honestly can't see many points being dropped before May.Whereas I can't see Liverpool winning 4 games on the bounce, let alone the 12 they'll probably require.
I've said before but the best short-term scenario is for Hicks to get full control
Saying that, i don't think any of the off-field stuff is having an effect on what is happening on the pitch. Our squad simply isn't as good as Utd's and the 2 players we rely on the most have been picking up constant injuries. Even during our decent start to the season we weren't really playing well, we were just doing enough to get by and that wasn't going to last.
Today's match summed up the last month or 2 perfectly. I lost count of the amount of times the ball was bouncing around in City's 6 yard box and we couldn't put it in, then Bellamy's goal (De Jong looked offside too) taking a massive deflection and then Dunne's save from Benayoun when it looked as if he was just going to head it in.
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Soldato
Really, I think it's been his mental state that's put you in this position.
So I say on behalf of United fans everywhere...K.R.A.P!
Caporegime
Which hasn't been helped by all the in fighting at our club. The owners looking to replace him, Parry over ruling him on player purchases and the media seemingly begging for his head.
sorry was thinking we hadnt played them twice for some reason
I've highlighted some serious flaws in your logic there!
Whereas I can't see Liverpool winning 4 games on the bounce, let alone the 12 they'll probably require.
Newcastle are the only team to come to OT and get a point - until we play them away (and win) it will remain a tough game , however badly Utd played on the first day of the season
boro always seem to nick a point off us somehow - so many close games between us two, as though they only ever turn up for Utd games. City may be **** at the moment but a derby is a derby after all
Linoge is spot on - there is a lot of mentality that is not happening at Liverpool, the odd game you are up for and have resounding wins (like Newcastle away for example), but a lot of the "slog" matches that arent easy there is no belief
I dont really care if my theory is wrong, I would prefer to think of the race as not done until the finishing line is crossed, Utd are still capable of relaxing too early and not getting expected points - its happened before and it will happen again, its also games like Spurs away before Xmas, we should have won that game (Im not saying we deserved it) but given everything we should have won it (being the game just before we went away to Japan) but we lost two points - that could easily happen again anywhere
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Man of Honour
I think it's the opposite, you need a manager with balls to win the English top flight as managerial weaknesses definitely rub off on players and Benitez just doesn't seem hard enough when things get tough.
If you look at who's taken their teams to the title over the years they've all been the sort of leader who players would go to war for whereas, whether you like it or not, Benitez crumbles in public when he plays mindgames and that can't have a reassuring effect on his team.
he does have a bit of a history of airing grievances with his bosses in public though. you put it out there and of course the media are going to seize on it.
Soldato
Can't believe how crap some of the players were for Liverpool today. When a great ex-Liverpool player is reduced to laughing at the performance of our midfield something is seriously wrong. I've tried to support Lucas all season but at best he is painfully out of form and at worst, simply can't cut it in the EPL.
As for resting players because of Madrid, the quality of the players on the bench clearly shows the relative lack of quality and depth in the squad. We have four or five top-drawer players in Reina, Skeletor, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard and Torres but the rest of the squad is too old or simpy not good enough. How do players justfiy the offensive salaries when they can't even control a ball or simply pass it to one of their colleagues.
Really peed off.
As for resting players because of Madrid, the quality of the players on the bench clearly shows the relative lack of quality and depth in the squad. We have four or five top-drawer players in Reina, Skeletor, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard and Torres but the rest of the squad is too old or simpy not good enough. How do players justfiy the offensive salaries when they can't even control a ball or simply pass it to one of their colleagues.
Really peed off.