Weekend Football *Spoilers* inc Carling Cup Final 28/2 - 1/3

It's not like Sir Alex has ever blown a big lead with a vastly superior budget and team is it?

Nope, he hasnt, almost the entire first team squad was injured for the last 2 months of the 97-98 campaign.

Benitez has had two players injured long term this season, meanwhile we have had long term injuries to both "first choice" right full backs, the reserve right full back, both center backs, Carrck with a broken ankle, we havent had Hargreaves all season, Anderson has been out for nearly 2 months, Ronaldo didnt play for the first........4 weeks of the season, Rooney has been out for 2 months or there about, Evra has been out, his replacement injured, Nani has been out.......

Benitez has had such a hard time of it this season hasnt he? he has had to compete against a decimated united side, a chelsea side hat has been ravaged by injuries and an Arsenal side that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding, and he has STILL by his own hand. messed it up.
 
He's also made a lot of great buys too and missed out on some incredible players through no fault of his own. People go on about the amount of money he's spent but that's down to a high turn around of players because we couldn't afford to go out and buy a Torres, for example, straight away.
Couldn't disagree with you more. He hasn't made a lot, you could count his great buys on one hand, Torres, Mascherano, Alonso and Reina. As for not having the money to buy a good player straight away, also nonsense. Instead of buying one good expensive player he bought 2 or 3 very average players who were only sold on a season later at almost zero profit, or in some cases, loss. Some of Benitez' signings really make me question the ability of his scouts or his perception of what good play is (something which his tactical choices further strengthen my beliefs).

I respect Maureen, but wouldnt want him at Man Utd - ONeil I would take in a flash (and would have a few years ago before the AV appointment when Fergie first mentioned stepping down)

Mourinho is a much better manager than the other 2 mentioned. O'Neil just doesn't impress me. He's splashed a hell of a lot of money and bought a lot of English players who, if history has taught us anything, flatter to deceive.
 
Not having a go but who do you think is a good manager then? It seems most Man U fans think Ferguson is the only decent manager in the world. :p

I think there a lot of good managers out there. It all depends what a club needs and what there aspirations are. What makes a good manager in England does not make a good manager on the continent and vice versa. Benitez is good but thats all, Good. Liverpool need and deserve better.

I disagree, Ferguson is not the only decent manager in the world but he does learn from his mistakes.

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No, Loki waffles on a lot when it comes to Benitez. He used to go on about how he had no track record of winning titles let alone breaking the dominance of a couple of sides like Fergie had done in Scotland when he took Aberdeen to the title ahead of Celtic and Rangers.

His record isn't as good as you suggest Baz, so hardly waffle. He inherited a very good side from Hector Cuper when both Barca and Madrid were in transition. He made then threw his toys out of the pram and moved to Liverpool where he inherited another good side and won the Champions League and is now starting to throw his toys out of the pram again about signings. I am detecting an pattern here...................

He bought Keane for some £20+million knowing full well that at his age he was pretty much moulded as a player. Same with Crouch, Pennant, Dossena, Bellamy before him yet none have been able to perform to his oh so high standards. So why on earth buy him if he was never was going to fit into his long term plans in the first place.

The flip side of course was highlighted yesterday, playing Skrtel a left sided centre back at right back. That is just one example in whole raft of questionable decisions, sitting on 1-0, below par performances and dubious purchases.

As for the purchases he has made, the fact is Money has been there end of story. Who are these missing links and final pieces of jigsaws we tire of hearing about ad nauseum every summer Benitez has missed out on. Then you look at some really exciting raw talent like Babbel who since his arrival has not improved his game one iota under Rafa's fantastic man management skills.

If you were a player of good skill and reputation, would you seriously want to work for a manager who doesn't stick by you, plays you out of position constantly and over relies on other players to the point of sustained injuries.

I have no vested interest in Liverpool so as far as I am concerned, follow him blindly till the end of time. The longer he is there, the funnier this whole sham is.
 
Nope, he hasnt, almost the entire first team squad was injured for the last 2 months of the 97-98 campaign.

Benitez has had two players injured long term this season, meanwhile we have had long term injuries to both "first choice" right full backs, the reserve right full back, both center backs, Carrck with a broken ankle, we havent had Hargreaves all season, Anderson has been out for nearly 2 months, Ronaldo didnt play for the first........4 weeks of the season, Rooney has been out for 2 months or there about, Evra has been out, his replacement injured, Nani has been out.......

Benitez has had such a hard time of it this season hasnt he? he has had to compete against a decimated united side, a chelsea side hat has been ravaged by injuries and an Arsenal side that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding, and he has STILL by his own hand. messed it up.

At one point only 6-8 weeks ago we has 12 first squad players out injured. Ronaldo didn't play for the first 4 weeks, then he was sent off and missed a further 3. Our injury problems this season have been so bad that we've had Rafael and Evans play over 20 games each, Fletcher has been a starter more often than not (and has trebled his appearances from last season) and we're still in all competitions.
 
At one point only 6-8 weeks ago we has 12 first squad players out injured. Ronaldo didn't play for the first 4 weeks, then he was sent off and missed a further 3. Our injury problems this season have been so bad that we've had Rafael and Evans play over 20 games each, Fletcher has been a starter more often than not (and has trebled his appearances from last season) and we're still in all competitions.

Whoopeedo! We have had the Yak out for 90% of the season and look where we are. We should have won against chelsea, arsenal and liverpool. With the Yak we would be top of the league 9 points clear by now.
 
Whoopeedo! We have had the Yak out for 90% of the season and look where we are. We should have won against chelsea, arsenal and liverpool. With the Yak we would be top of the league 9 points clear by now.

To be fair Yakubu takes more away from Everton than he gives, so him being injured is a blessing in disguise.
 
His record isn't as good as you suggest Baz, so hardly waffle. He inherited a very good side from Hector Cuper when both Barca and Madrid were in transition.
Would that be the same Madrid that won the Champions League in 2000 and 2002 as well as La Liga in 2001 and 2003?
 
Well you've contradicted yourself, RVP's a certain starter, without question, so you can't have Eduardo and Ade, so thats only 4 players missing. Arshavin, 15million squid , and Nasri 13mil, are clearly first team material, both better than Walcott, Rosicky might play better but neither of those are certain starters either tbh, which leaves Ade, who doesn't remotely deserve to start and has played most of the season and been utter turd, we've actually been better since he was injured, shockingly.

Basically leaving Fabregas who would be a huge loss to any team in the world, however, if we can't cope with only one real injury, we deserve to be where we are.

4 of them 5 started at everton and man city and at birmingham (minus rosicky) last season. What i am saying is that the team itself is poorer than previous seasons. It shows something when we need a goal we bring on eboue for sagna.
 
I go to the toilet, come back and Blackburn have gone from 0-0 to 2-0. Fantastic :D.

Really need to win this one today, I think a loss today may well send us down.
 
Really intrigued to see the team Fergie puts out today. Hope Fabio gets a start and I hope Anderson gets the nod ahead of Scholes.

Really looking forward to seeing Welbeck as well, I think he could make it with United :)
 
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I guess I am not really for or against him, I think its undoubted that he has improved us in the last few years, but the question now is whether he can take us that last few steps. If he can, fine. If not then he needs replacing.

Who would take you forward ? because there can not be many managers that would be able to come in and get you success in the league or improve much on what Rafa is doing.

@ Baz, Instead of buying lots of average players and having a high turnover of players, why didn't Rafa buy one or two big name players a season ? or not buy so many average players, and buy some decent players ?

The amount of money he has wasted on average players would be more then enough to buy good players in most positions.
It's down to Rafa being a good coach, and being very hit and miss in the transfer market, more miss.
 
Hull are in freefall

I'll take the win today but I really don't want to see Hull go down. Yes they've slipped a little recently but they've been one of the few promoted teams in recent years to actually take the game to their opposition.
 
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