Weight loss - Weight bench or exercise bike?

icecold said:
With an attitude like that I can't really help you.

Man yourself up, give them a try, and get moving.

A bench will only help you do bench press, which is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

The workout you just posted is fine, provided you can do all those things safely.
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Ok so how would this be.

This workout: (Monday, Wednesday, Friday)
A1 Pistol squats - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A2 Dips - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A3 Chinups - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A4 Pushups - 2-3x10-20 / 45 -work your way up to a handstand pushup
A5 Inverted rows - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A6 Hanging leg raises - 2-3x10-20 / 45 -work your way up to a full hanging V-up
A7 Back extensions - 2-3x10-20 / 45 -eventually, try glute-ham raises

And my dumbbell workout on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

Would that be doing to much? Should I just stick to the bodyweight workout?

Cheers
 
icecold said:
I think you should do the complexes I mentioned :)
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I'm getting such a conflict of information, now someone else is telling me to do this:

3 sets of Lunges or bodyweight squats
3 sets of Push ups
3 sets of Pull ups

Every other day along with cardio days inbetween. Just impossible to figure out what's best. -_-
 
Icecold's information is usually pretty solid. I'm going to give another vote for joining a gym. They normally cater to all kinds of needs, they aren't strictly for professionals or 'serious lifters', and having a personal trainer from a gym to help you create and carry out a workout plan is a huge advantage. I'd advise you to post your diet here as soon as you can. The amount of people who are eating rubbish yet think they have a healthy diet is staggering. Without a health diet, you won't see very good results. Having an appropriate diet will help your weight loss to no end.

I'm hesitant to write more as I don't have long left to write and I've only skimmed through the thread. If you've got a healthy diet with a decent calorie deficit and are doing a mixture of resistance (compound weight exercises) and cardio training, you'll lost weight at a healthy and adequate rate. Different people will advise you to do different workout routines. You only need to make sure that you are targeting all major muscle groups, are using an approprate rep/intensity range, and are performing them correctly.
 
So if I was to get a 50KG barbell set and do complexes, this would help me to lose weight and gain muscle? I've looked at the website you linked Ice but there's a lot to it and confusing, please could you break it down a little bit for me?

Cheers
 
Ok guys I'm getting frustrated with all of this now so I just need to stick to ONE routine. The following bodyweight routine, will be changing chinups with begginer chinups following Scoobys youtube video which seems really helpful. Hanging leg raises and inverted rows would be an issue though...

A1 Pistol squats - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A2 Dips - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A3 Chinups - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A4 Pushups - 2-3x10-20 / 45 -work your way up to a handstand pushup
A5 Inverted rows - 2-3x10-20 / 45
A6 Hanging leg raises - 2-3x10-20 / 45 -work your way up to a full hanging V-up
A7 Back extensions - 2-3x10-20 / 45 -eventually, try glute-ham raises

All seems ok? It's to be done 3 days a week..

Cheers
 
Tom_D said:
So if I was to get a 50KG barbell set and do complexes, this would help me to lose weight and gain muscle? I've looked at the website you linked Ice but there's a lot to it and confusing, please could you break it down a little bit for me?

Cheers
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Forget about losing fat and building muscle at the same time, one requires a calorie defecit, the other requires a calorie surplus.

Depending on how much you're looking to lose, if you concentrate on your diet and cardio you could be there in a relatively short amount of time. If you need to lose 20-30lb+ then adding in some weights would help to maintain as much muscle as possible while you lose fat, looking to get any more than that out of it is pointless for the time being.

Without trying to be funny, I think you should do some serious research on both losing fat and building muscle, the last thing you want to do when looking to shift weight is put the effort in and get disappointed because you're not getting the results.
 
It sounds to me like you need to do your own research so you understand what you actually need to do, rather than just listening to other people and taking it as gospel.

Once you understand how the process works, you'll realise why you're getting such varying advice - there's not just one way to do things. No one can tell you what's best for you, you'll probably take a "template" workout and prefer other things instead so change it up a little in the end anyway.

In answer to your question though about that routine? Sure, go ahead and do it. It's definitely not the best thing to be doing though, and you'll be looking to do something else within a month.
 
Agreed. Clearly there are two seperate goals here, a better understanding of how each of these is achieved could save a lot of wasted effort in the long run.
 
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Diet + cardio = no gym needed tbh imo is best thing for losing weight. Basically no matter what workout you do diet is the most important factor I dont mean cutting down on what you eat I mean watching the types of food you eat.
 
It seems I'm not dropping weight, but I KNOW I have been eating below 1800 cals. I've stayed the same at 190 since I've been doing it properly for the last 2-3 weeks. Could it be because I've been lifting weights and putting on muscle?

Cheers
 
Too many people now adays seem to be indoctrinated in the "go to the gym" "pump some iron" "go home" mentality. What people don't seem to realise is there is a real world out there that doesn't need to be connected by the motor car.

Jog to the shops, walk back with the groceries.
whine, whine ,whine... its raining.... it's cold... there's too much to carry.
BULL****. Buy the right clothing, go twice!!
Go for a walk up the local hill, jog round the park, cycle to work.
Most importantly in my eyes, realise you carry around with you, every day of your life "your own set of weights" your body. Use it every way you can, every time you can.
Find a hobby that promotes flexibility and movement and gets you off your arse.
Rock climbing, skiing, abseiling, cycling, rowing, swimming, tennis, squash. Something... ANYTHING FUN to keep you motivated.
Be realistic, you're not going to look like Brad Pitt in 6 months and stop trying. Just get out there and enjoy yourself instead of sitting on your arse watching TV or surfing the net every day after work.



Buy an exercise mat if you must and get down on the floor.
Press ups.
Sit ups
Crunches
Leg raises
Star jumps
Burpees
Squats
Planks
Bridges
You can do all that WHILE you watch TV if you must get a fix of that crap. :D
 
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I've decided I'm just going to go back to my basic dumbbell routine but I'm going to incorporate the exercises into 3 days splits instead of every day, then the other 2 days I'll do bodyweight exercises which should also fall into the cardio category.
 
Tom_D said:
It seems I'm not dropping weight, but I KNOW I have been eating below 1800 cals. I've stayed the same at 190 since I've been doing it properly for the last 2-3 weeks. Could it be because I've been lifting weights and putting on muscle?

Cheers
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Could be, hence my suggestion to leave exercise static and play with the diet to see what loses weight. If you change two variables at once you don't know what the results are down to.

That's my excuse anyway :p

ps. Wouldn't body measurements work better for you if you intend to pile on muscle?
 
Morgoth said:
Diet alone would get you quite far. Eating 1500 calories a day you would still probably lose 2 pounds a week for a few months.
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I just get hungry very often, so I have to eat around every 3-4 hours which can be a huge burden on the calories sometimes. I honestly thing 1500 cals a day would push it for me. But I really have been working on getting the frequent meals down in terms of calories.

This is how most of last week looked:

Breakfast - Fruit n Fibre
Lunch - Prawn salad
Dinner - Smoked Haddoc fillet with spinach.
Bowl of cornflakes before bed.
I also had a 70 calorie cereal bar in there somewhere.

Cheers
 
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