Poll: WengIn or WengOut?

In or Out?

  • In

    Votes: 18 20.0%

  • Out

    Votes: 48 53.3%

  • jonneymendoza

    Votes: 24 26.7%
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opethdisciple said:
Lets say Wenger does go this summer. Does looking for a new manager during a World Cup summer complete things?
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The 2 favourites for the job are Low and Henry, so if we are going for one of them we would have to wait for Germany or Belgium to be knocked out. Maybe Henry would leave earlier for his dream job, who knows?!
 
wenger has seemed to have lost the dressing room as apparently all the players gathered together earlier this week without wenger there and one senior player said a speech and went into tears halfway when the player said how his own children asked him why they are so bad.

some other player interrupted him to carry on the speach
 
No one has mentioned Thomas Tuchel yet. He's young, available, managed at a big club and has ties with Sven Mislintat. (Although I just read he fell out with Sven at Dortmund)

I just hope we DONT move Wenger upstairs and hire Rodgers. :o
 
Ancelotti isn't a great manager, he doesn't build teams, he's a caretaker manager, as in literally that is his only job. He's old, he's not in it for the long term, he doesn't buy players, he doesn't build teams he just rights a single problem with a great team, does okay for a short bit then gets fired.

Nothing about anything Ancelotti has done in the past 15 years of football suggests he's the man to come in and rebuild Arsenal.

Tuchel, maybe, maybe not. I'm not exactly sure why he did get fired. He didn't really cause a resurgence at Dortmund either, they went to **** under Klopp not because the team got bad but due to a crazy injury crisis and difficulty finding form as only half the players came back. Once most of the players were back they were excellent in the final few months before Klopp left, Tuchel took over a side that fixed 95% of it's problems 4 months before he took over. THe difference was they started a season without an injury crisis, I think without internationals so the players got a proper summer break and started the season fresh and ending the previous season in form.

They were good but they were good before him. Under him they just felt like Dortmund back to their best as opposed to something different and new. I don't really know about him in terms of results before that, how much he improved (or didn't) Mainz.

As for Low, as you say, international is completely different. You're not dealing with contracts, you're not dealing with buying and selling, you're not dealing with motivation over multiple seasons and the level of competition is dramatically higher. In international there are 2-3 really good teams and everyone else kinda sucks, league level is for the most part much much higher. Assuming he'd be good at club level is well, based on nothing at all basically. He could be, he could be terrible. Maybe the only outright positive for having Low would be there are probably some great German internationals he'd have a great relationship with who he would be a great asset in terms of persuading them to sign.
 
I'd not want anyone new to management, former club legend or not. Not Low either, never done anything at club level. Leonardo Jardim (Monaco) has also been mentioned.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Ancelotti isn't a great manager, he doesn't build teams, he's a caretaker manager, as in literally that is his only job. He's old, he's not in it for the long term, he doesn't buy players, he doesn't build teams he just rights a single problem with a great team, does okay for a short bit then gets fired.

Nothing about anything Ancelotti has done in the past 15 years of football suggests he's the man to come in and rebuild Arsenal.

Tuchel, maybe, maybe not. I'm not exactly sure why he did get fired. He didn't really cause a resurgence at Dortmund either, they went to **** under Klopp not because the team got bad but due to a crazy injury crisis and difficulty finding form as only half the players came back. Once most of the players were back they were excellent in the final few months before Klopp left, Tuchel took over a side that fixed 95% of it's problems 4 months before he took over. THe difference was they started a season without an injury crisis, I think without internationals so the players got a proper summer break and started the season fresh and ending the previous season in form.

They were good but they were good before him. Under him they just felt like Dortmund back to their best as opposed to something different and new. I don't really know about him in terms of results before that, how much he improved (or didn't) Mainz.

As for Low, as you say, international is completely different. You're not dealing with contracts, you're not dealing with buying and selling, you're not dealing with motivation over multiple seasons and the level of competition is dramatically higher. In international there are 2-3 really good teams and everyone else kinda sucks, league level is for the most part much much higher. Assuming he'd be good at club level is well, based on nothing at all basically. He could be, he could be terrible. Maybe the only outright positive for having Low would be there are probably some great German internationals he'd have a great relationship with who he would be a great asset in terms of persuading them to sign.
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I agree on Ancelotti, he's just a sideways move. If Wenger were to leave in the summer, who would your choice be?
 
Benitez could do a job as could conte

Conte would certainly kick some of the players arses into gear he don't take no **** but he will be back at Italy in the summer so rules him out

I would still like to see sean dyche or eddie howe given a crack of the whip

Don't want ancelloti hes a short term solution
 
Simeone please. Great manager and would give the players such a kick up the ass, they wouldn’t be able to sit down for a fortnight.

Allegri also a fave of mine.
 
Simeone would kill all our players with the intensity he wants from his players. We wouldn’t have a squad left lol:p especially Wilshere who would have to probably retire lol.

Ancelloti is a good manager but not a long term solution for us. We need someone young, full of new ideas and tactics to get our team back into shape. Also someone who is cutthroat at getting rid of players we don’t need.

I have no idea who that could be in all honesty :/.
 
We do realise right that if Wenger stays beyond this year next season is going to look much like any other in recent years.

A few good nights, but mostly the same predictable story.
 
Whether his job actually hinges on winning the Europa League is anyones guess, but at least there were some interesting comments from the fan forum the other day with Gazidis re Raul 'don't call me Director of Football' Sanllehi with regard to his experience with overseeing managerial changes from his Barca days. My gut feeling is that he'll be allowed to see out the last year of his contract, especially with it being a World Cup year, although obviously I'd prefer he went this summer.
 
Somnambulist said:
Whether his job actually hinges on winning the Europa League is anyones guess, but at least there were some interesting comments from the fan forum the other day with Gazidis re Raul 'don't call me Director of Football' Sanllehi with regard to his experience with overseeing managerial changes from his Barca days. My gut feeling is that he'll be allowed to see out the last year of his contract, especially with it being a World Cup year, although obviously I'd prefer he went this summer.
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Best thing would be to win the Europa, sack Wenger (give him a nice send off/statue) Get Allegri in and rebuild.
 
Yep, he always says that he honours his contracts.

Debuchy just won player of the month in Ligue 1, good to see him doing well.
 
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I think the Arsenal board are scared after what happened with United post Fergie.
 
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