Western Digital Red's
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Well that didn't take long, now £134.99! Probably order some over the weekend
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Hi all
Could you use these in a pc media server for storage only and playing back media and not in a nas.
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Could you use these in a pc media server for storage only and playing back media and not in a nas.
Thanks
Yes.
I will be picking them up for exactly this use. They are designed to be more reliable than the average consumer (non enterprise) drive that is run 24/7 and accessed regularly. They should be ideal for home server use
Perhaps it should be noted that, notwithstanding their intended use, these are just normal hard drives as far as usage goes.
In other words, as far as any operating system is concerned, they are just like any other hard drive.
Their hardware connectors are also exactly the same, so in order to use these drives, it is simply a case of plug and play like you would install any hard drive.
In other words, as far as any operating system is concerned, they are just like any other hard drive.
Their hardware connectors are also exactly the same, so in order to use these drives, it is simply a case of plug and play like you would install any hard drive.
I had a Change of mind and decided to go with 2 X 2TB Seagate ST2000DM001'S For £132 from a competitor . I know you only get a years warranty and there have been reported problems (what drive doesn't) but these drives are good performers and i'll keep a backup just in case
Dosen't everyone keep a backup of all data?
Dosen't everyone keep a backup of all data?
You'd be surprised.
I cannot backup all my data at the moment cause I have too much and cannot afford to buy the hard drive space just to back it up.
I do have the very important stuff backed up, and the rest I must accept I will lose if the drive fails.
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so would you all say that these are better then the true build by samsung f4 2tb drives as i only have these in my server and thast when samsung made them before they sold the company to seagate.
I want somthing just as good or better than them drives.
I want somthing just as good or better than them drives.
Well, 'good' is a subjective term.
The Red's haven't really been out long enough to comment on their reliability.
What I can say is my Red's are quiet (can't hear mine at all), run cool and just do exactly as they are supposed to.
So assuming none of them fail any time soon (touch wood), then I would gladly recommend them over any other 'green' drive.
The Red's haven't really been out long enough to comment on their reliability.
What I can say is my Red's are quiet (can't hear mine at all), run cool and just do exactly as they are supposed to.
So assuming none of them fail any time soon (touch wood), then I would gladly recommend them over any other 'green' drive.
brand new drive 3tb red, as always i never use a drive until its been tested, which means a full write 0's test and then a full read test done.
good thing i do this on all drives before i use them:
take a look
its already dead with bad sectors, so id say that these are no more reliable than any other drive, infact id say they are less reliable.
take a look, only 10 hours powerd on time too, although id guess the failure happened well before 10 hour count.
drive arrived yesterday and i left it testing last night with the write test, and this morning i started the read test on it.
good thing i do this on all drives before i use them:
take a look
its already dead with bad sectors, so id say that these are no more reliable than any other drive, infact id say they are less reliable.
take a look, only 10 hours powerd on time too, although id guess the failure happened well before 10 hour count.
drive arrived yesterday and i left it testing last night with the write test, and this morning i started the read test on it.
brand new drive 3tb red, as always i never use a drive until its been tested, which means a full write 0's test and then a full read test done.
good thing i do this on all drives before i use them:
take a look
its already dead with bad sectors, so id say that these are no more reliable than any other drive, infact id say they are less reliable.
take a look, only 10 hours powerd on time too, although id guess the failure happened well before 10 hour count.
drive arrived yesterday and i left it testing last night with the write test, and this morning i started the read test on it.
I don't think you've proven they're less reliable, you could also just be unlucky there. Time for an RMA.
well so far in my eyes, they are deffo not worth the premium over a green drive, the speed on these was very slow, i ran a bench test and this drive scored 23ms on the access time, the 3tb green i have scores 15.7ms and has higher iops capability.
iv had a RE3 drive fail on me and has black edition and various segate drives fail too.
main thing im pointing out here is to test the drive thoroughly before you put it to actual use, will save you a ton of time and headache in the long run,.
someone earlier in the thread pointed out that its best to just through the drive into the machine your using it in and do a quick format and you good to go.
not in this case pal, with large drives its best to always test them properly since you have the potential to loose more data than a smaller drive.
so far the reds have not impressed me in speed or reliability.,
they are quiet and run cool, thats about all they have going for themselves.
also just checked then newer green drives are using 1tb platters too now so i may just get a refund on this one and go green.
iv had a RE3 drive fail on me and has black edition and various segate drives fail too.
main thing im pointing out here is to test the drive thoroughly before you put it to actual use, will save you a ton of time and headache in the long run,.
someone earlier in the thread pointed out that its best to just through the drive into the machine your using it in and do a quick format and you good to go.
not in this case pal, with large drives its best to always test them properly since you have the potential to loose more data than a smaller drive.
so far the reds have not impressed me in speed or reliability.,
they are quiet and run cool, thats about all they have going for themselves.
also just checked then newer green drives are using 1tb platters too now so i may just get a refund on this one and go green.
To be fair, judging the speed of these drives based on your experience of a drive you have proven to be faulty is not really subjective, unless you have another 'working' copy you've tested. IMO if these are reported as being quieter and cooler than competing drives, then that equates to less vibration and less heat stress on drive components, which should go some way to validating WD's claims.
There is always the chance of buying a bad example of anything, just RMA and move on. Good advice on testing by the way, although Welshdragon clearly knows a fair bit about NAS's so his comment on using DSM is probably equally valid...
Well, it does look like you have just been unlucky Cyber-May. It can happen to any drive though. Like the time the replacement for my faulty Samsung F3 grinded so loudly the guy from OcUk could hear it over the phone.
Anyway, something else I have come across. Since Cyber-May's post, I ran HD Tune on one of my 3Tb drives and it was fine. But I also ran a benchmark, with the following results:
What's interesting is the seek time. I thought these drives were over 20ms?
Anyway, something else I have come across. Since Cyber-May's post, I ran HD Tune on one of my 3Tb drives and it was fine. But I also ran a benchmark, with the following results:
What's interesting is the seek time. I thought these drives were over 20ms?
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above looks like a short stroke test since your access time test doesnt go beyond 50% and your minimum transfer rate is too high compared to even what benchmark sites have got from the inner part of the platter.
also your title shows 2199GB so obviously something fishy going on there.
either way the reds done even compete with segates offering which is considerably cheaper too:
also your title shows 2199GB so obviously something fishy going on there.
either way the reds done even compete with segates offering which is considerably cheaper too:
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The Reds aren't being sold as the fastest drives. They are being sold as specific to the NAS market: low vibration, quiet, cool, low power consumption, faster error recovery (to avoid dropping out of a RAID array), longer warranty than most consumer drives, all while offering *reasonably* fast performance. I think they have achieved these goals admirably, assuming the drives are reliable.
You have just been unlucky with your specific drive.
I ordered my two 3 TB Reds from a competitor (not OCUK) and they arrived inside bubble-wrap envelopes inside a box with some of those inflatable bags as cushioning. Not very impressed with the packaging, mainly because the drives weren't secured, so I will be testing them extensively before putting them into operation.
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Enterprise level? A lot more expensive, 5 year warranty... Probably a lot hotter, louder, greater power consumption? I don't know anything about it, but it doesn't seem the same from a quick glance.
2 have just arrived for me. For the price i paid (About £93 each) i don't think there was any point going for the WD green. Just a shame availability wasn't out earlier as i had to buy a couple Samsung F4's so now i won't all match.