What 4K, 120hz+, 30”+ options are coming?

The panel is slow tested it and needs a lot of voltage for faster transition times. It's producing while being slow a lot overshoot especially below 100 hz. And the mbr is also trash. rtings has made a wrong shot. It has massive cross talk.
 
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Lol. My output is ********. You know i have much more experience like most. Im far away from beeing a noob who is talking bs ;).

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/YDbYVbdl/lg-27gn950-b/pixels-large.jpg

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/5aVP0RV8/lg-27gp950-b/pixels-large.jpg


By the not focused shot for 27GP950 you could not say it has a much better coating as 27GN950.

They will use for the same panel the same coating. It's unlikely they will change it. Since introducing the 2019 Nano Ips lineup they had never changed the coating.

Until i have not tested it, i will not believe it's another coating.

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/mz4bjBtN/lg-27gn950-b/average-room-off-large.jpg

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/d8iGhiRS/lg-27gp950-b/average-room-off-large.jpg

The light reflections looking equal harsh so i think it's the same ****.
 
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Phunky said:
M28u gets better reviews than the LG

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tool...te-m28u/16085/24821?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

new firmware fix input times and has better hdmi 2.1 than others
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Why are you comparing to old model?
27GP950 is the current model and with true HDMI 2.1.

M28U doesn't have any real HDMI 2.1, but only half-assed more like HDMI2+ (actually still worser than DP1.4) 24 GB/s mode.
(meaning PS5 would be down to 4:2:0 garbage)
FI32U and Acer XV282K are other similar HDMI 2.1 wannabe marketing monitors.
Just shows how bad monitor market is, when 2017 released standard isn't supported 3+ years later...

Also those panels achieve their response times by pushing RTC lot with more overshoot especially at lower frequencies.
(in 27GP950 Fast setting would be comparable in overshoot with Normal mode minimizing overshoot)
 
lugerfield said:
Lol. My output is ********. You know i have much more experience like most. Im far away from beeing a noob who is talking bs ;).

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/YDbYVbdl/lg-27gn950-b/pixels-large.jpg

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/5aVP0RV8/lg-27gp950-b/pixels-large.jpg


By the not focused shot for 27GP950 you could not say it has a much better coating as 27GN950.
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Now you trying to convince me you're in need to visit eye doctor?
That tiny horizontal direction division in IPS RGB sub pixels simply isn't visible through rougher matte coating.

And it's that reflection picture which is more unreliable, if environment isn't precisely controlled (100% check, reflection in different location) and camera settings aren't manually locked to same. (what's that different colour tone?)
 
Reflection shots are this ;):

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/mz4bjBtN/lg-27gn950-b/average-room-off-large.jpg

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/d8iGhiRS/lg-27gp950-b/average-room-off-large.jpg

The 27GN950 shot is more zoomed.

The 27GP950 macro shot is not focused. It's useless.

You see the huge amount of haze within the coating of 27GP950:

https://i0.wp.com/www.konsolenfan.d...1/08/LG_27GP950_Test_konsolenfan_11.jpg?ssl=1

https://i2.wp.com/www.konsolenfan.d...1/08/LG_27GP950_Test_konsolenfan_21.jpg?ssl=1


"There's a ring of vents around the bias-lighting ring, and there's a fan built-in. We couldn't hear it in our lab unless we were right next to it, but if you're in a really quiet environment, it might be audible."

Lol. About the 27GN950 with very loud fan they mentioned nothing. I have read such nonsense a lot times. "Couldn't hear it". In reality it's insanely annoying.

Look what they wrote about X27:

"There's a fan on the back of the monitor to help with heat dissipation. It's always running, but is extremely quiet."

Extremely quiet. Lol, they must be deaf. The fan of X27 is extremely loud if you don't reduce fan speed to 21 % via service menu. Even then it's far away from quiet. My trust for this "reviewers" is minimal.
 
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Anyone got a view on Gigabyte M32U? I'm looking to add a 4k monitor that can be used for mixed use (both gaming and office apps).

I'm assuming here this is just the Aorus FI32U with some of the shiny bits taken off and thus RBG, rather than an enlarged M28U which is BGR? £750 seems more tolerable for a 32" 4K 120Hz+ monitor than £900+. Only HDR400, so not really HDR at all but it seems the HDR600 monitors will be more expensive or have other issues.

Anyone heard anyone saying that LG (or Dell) might be looking to put out a 32" 4K high refresh monitor? Historically, I normally buy LG IPS panels.
 
M32U using the same innolux panel as FI32U. Bad response times and horrible overshoot below 100 hz. This is a k.o. for an uhd monitor which should be well optimized for refresh rates below 100 hz through heavy load for gpu's. RTX 3090 is struggling in some AAA titles getting much more than 60 fps as well.

For lcds hdr without fald isn't real hdr. Even hdr 600 on AUO panel of PG32UQ is using edge led based vertical strips. It's looking very bad in dark scenes, if big areas, which should be dark, getting illuminated with white bars. It looks like spotlights.

LG will not release uhd 32" high refresh panels soon. There is no information about it.
 
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That doesn't sound great.

I don't need ultra fast response times since I mainly play games like RTS like Total War, rather than FPS shooter etc. I can see the difference between 60Hz and 100Hz monitors but beyond that I really find I can't tell the difference. My eyes are too old.
What I really dislike are monitors where text seems "dirty" or "foggy" for work. I find VA panels are just intolerable for that but even some IPS gaming panels seem to have it.

Right now I'm using a Dell U3219Q and Dell AW3821DW since I find 27" screens don't offer enough vertical height. I like both in terms of their size but the AW3821DW is only 1600p which for office work I notice is a bit grainy. Would any of these 32" 4k high refresh screens be better than my current monitors?

Dell have come out with a 40" 5k2k monitor but it's only 60Hz. I clearly need a 5k2k version of the AW3821DW!
 
If your fps are higher in this games than 100 fps you could try a M32U. The FI32U had coil whine while using hdr. The M28U had coil whine also within sdr. Gigabyte is using pretty cheap electronics.
Grainyness is result of the coating. Va are looking fuzzy because of bad pixel rendering.
Better as AW3821DW never. The Innolux uhd panel which is used for M28U, FI32U, XB323QKNV is only a bad compromise.
Otherwise the ips glow and blb is very bad on this Innolux panels. I hope you can deal with it.

The main advantage of AW3821DW are bringing good response times in sync with low overshoot across the whole adaptive sync range. This feature is called "variabel overdrive". Only G-Sync module monitors are offering it. Slow panels like the Innolux needing a lot voltage for faster response times with higher refresh rate compliance at max. refresh rate. The overdrive is mainly optimized for 144 hz on this Innolux panels.

This monitors have no variable overdrive. So the high voltage persists. It's causing massive overshoot when lower refresh rates used.
 
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Well Total War games can be horrible from a fps perspective. At Ultra, even a 3080 Ti would struggle to give you 60 fps at 4k for TW: Three Kingdoms. I tend though to game at settings since I can't really see much difference between the two. I then achieve something in the region of 90-100 fps and of older games something close to 140 fps. I do have other games I play though where 100+ fps is very achievable.

It seems, unfortunately, that this is still a waiting game. I suppose not much of a market for mixed use gaming/office IPS displays in the 32in category. I might just stick with what I have or just buy another good quality 4K 60Hz 32in. A rock solid 60 fps on a 60Hz might be good enough.
 
lugerfield said:
Reflection shots are this ;):

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/mz4bjBtN/lg-27gn950-b/average-room-off-large.jpg

https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/d8iGhiRS/lg-27gp950-b/average-room-off-large.jpg

The 27GN950 shot is more zoomed.

The 27GP950 macro shot is not focused. It's useless.

You see the huge amount of haze within the coating of 27GP950:

https://i0.wp.com/www.konsolenfan.d...1/08/LG_27GP950_Test_konsolenfan_11.jpg?ssl=1

https://i2.wp.com/www.konsolenfan.d...1/08/LG_27GP950_Test_konsolenfan_21.jpg?ssl=1
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Those reflection images are clearly taken without precise control of environment/situation.
If taken in precisely controlled set up, location of reflection would be identical.
(actually GN's photo has more of lower edge of monitor visible)
And different colour tint also hints toward lack of precise control of camera settings, or even worse change in light source.
Hence only accurate thing which can be said from those, is that coating of neither is mirror like glossy/high on specular reflection.


And that macro shot definitely isn't out of focus.
That split of RGB sub pixels into lower and upper half simply wouldn't be visible through rough AR coating or in any significantly out of focus photo.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies

GN's coating is certainly one of the roughest
https://www.prad.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/lg-27gn950-coating.png
https://www.prad.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/refcoat.jpg
https://www.prad.de/testberichte/test-lg-27gn950-b-4k-gaming-monitor-mit-nano-ips-technologie/3/

But that could have been well changed to lighter coating, like has been used many times in the past.
You can easily find many different AR filters/screen protectors available for laptops etc to buy as consumer.
So big companies have no doubt quite big selection of AR coatings with single or multiple layers available.
Even near zero reflectivity, but high transmittance&clarity coatings have been designed... But usually at way too high cost for consumer use.


Even less uncontrolled/unknown environment images don't prove much anything.
Though for 100% sure there's white painted wall behind the monitor and hence also other walls are very likely white giving lots of diffuse ambient light.
In which scenario that reflection actually fits quite well for semi-glossy/matte type coating.
Strong AR coatings minimize reflection from low intensity light sources very effectively.




Reb71 said:
....enlarged M28U which is BGR?
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That Innolux panel is RGB.
But Sharp has 27" 2560x1440 BGR panel used in FI27Q-X.
 
Nope only cheap Innolux panel with crap quality (massive blb/ips glow, bad overdrive (massive overshoot below 100 hz and slow pixel response times compared with fast nano ips). AUO is to slow, look for hardwareunboxed review of PG32UQ on Youtube.
 
"The guy above" knows how good or bad monitors are ;). Im not keeping trash.

The only useable 31.5" uhd monitor is the LG 32EP950. Sadly no vrr, no 144 hz and the panel lottery with homogenity and pixel failures. But the picture quality is pretty good for an oled.

The ips models which has been released are faulty. Nothing you should buy. Good vrr is essential for uhd above 60 hz, even when using RTX 3090.
 
JediFragger said:
Gigabyte M32U, £750 and up for pre-order on OcUK.

Don't bother listening to the guy above, super super anal about his panels.
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Noted, I probably don't need the fastest panel. My 32HG70 isn't exactly the best but it's mostly fine, but would love to upgrade to 4K, also the Freesync range is crap.
 
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