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What do you think of the 4070Ti?

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Only just watched this. Thought it was going to be worse from reading reviews. A definite stagnation in price/performance when we see UK prices come in, but not 6500xt bad. Still i'd rather buy a 6500xt at £150 than throw down the lightly £900 for this.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Think it maybe needs another label, not "roll of honour". Something more fitting.

Maybe OcUK can bundle dunce caps in with it before shipping.
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How about "List of people who are encouraging Nvidia/AMD to ruin our hobby"

Just make it a thread for anyone who buys any 4000 or 7000 series cards.
 
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The_Arbiter said:
Only just watched this. Thought it was going to be worse from reading reviews. A definite stagnation in price/performance when we see UK prices come in, but not 6500xt bad. Still i'd rather buy a 6500xt at £150 than throw down the lightly £900 for this.
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Named as a 4070 and priced at $550 it would be an excellent product, nothing wrong with the hardware its just the price is all wrong.
 
Joxeon said:
Named as a 4070 and priced at $550 it would be an excellent product, nothing wrong with the hardware its just the price is all wrong.
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I still think under $500 TBH,because it would still be a price increase over the RTX3070,but with a smaller chip size and less memory bandwidth. TSMC 5NM also has available capacity as Apple reduce the amount it needed so TSMC are probably not in a place to push pricing as high as they wanted.

I hate to think how crap the RTX4060 and RTX4060TI will be now,and how much they will cost.
 
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Having read some of the reviews, I am usually quite positive for what was a 4080 12GB card.

Going by the 4070ti Suprim X review, I will give a warning that I don't usually give.

Looking at the PCB for the Suprim X and the specification, its one of the biggest rip-offs ever attempted in the Desktop GPU market. As a laptop chip, the 4070ti has merit but as a desktop card, at this price, its crazy.

Look at the ghetto PCB on the Suprim X

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Avoid this launch until Nvidia comes to its senses.

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Besty said:
Having read some of the reviews, I am usually quite positive for what was a 4080 12GB card.

Going by the 4070ti Suprim X review, I will give a warning that I don't usually give.

Looking at the PCB for the Suprim X and the specification, its one of the biggest rip-offs ever attempted in the Desktop GPU market. As a laptop chip, the 4070ti has merit but as a desktop card, at this price, its crazy.

Look at the ghetto PCB on the Suprim X

PVvEO8al.png.jpg

Avoid this launch until Nvidia comes to its senses.

www.igorslab.de

NVIDIA turns necessity into a virtue: MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12 GB Review | Page 3 | igor´sLAB

Today I finally reveal the secret of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti in the form of the board partner card MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12GB, which is the smallest Ada card so far. The near-full AD104 is…
www.igorslab.de www.igorslab.de
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i havent seen a pcb so bare for 15 years
 
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Besty said:
Having read some of the reviews, I am usually quite positive for what was a 4080 12GB card.

Going by the 4070ti Suprim X review, I will give a warning that I don't usually give.

Looking at the PCB for the Suprim X and the specification, its one of the biggest rip-offs ever attempted in the Desktop GPU market. As a laptop chip, the 4070ti has merit but as a desktop card, at this price, its crazy.

Look at the ghetto PCB on the Suprim X

PVvEO8al.png.jpg

Avoid this launch until Nvidia comes to its senses.

www.igorslab.de

NVIDIA turns necessity into a virtue: MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12 GB Review | Page 3 | igor´sLAB

Today I finally reveal the secret of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti in the form of the board partner card MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12GB, which is the smallest Ada card so far. The near-full AD104 is…
www.igorslab.de www.igorslab.de
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Goo lord there's nothing on it.
 
Hardware Unboxed noticed a dinstinct temp difference on the Suprim, Ignor calling them out. I guess markups are too tight for AIB's to "handle".

Trickle said:
PC Gaming is only expensive if you insist on ray-tracing or 4K 144hz.
Minimum ticket for ray-tracing on a 2K monitor is a £500 2nd hand 3080.
Otherwise you don't need to spend more than 250-300 (new) on a GPU. £100 on a processor. <£100 mobo for 2K gaming.
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Waiting to play games after some time to allow more affordable upgrades and cheaper games is generally what i try to do. I just upgraded to a rx6600 and am getting 70fps on average i guess at 4k high with Resi 3.
 
PCB is bare yet the cooler is still massive. Would be great to see a company make a smaller card. Can’t wait to see 4060’s take up four slots.
 
Besty said:
Having read some of the reviews, I am usually quite positive for what was a 4080 12GB card.

Going by the 4070ti Suprim X review, I will give a warning that I don't usually give.

Looking at the PCB for the Suprim X and the specification, its one of the biggest rip-offs ever attempted in the Desktop GPU market. As a laptop chip, the 4070ti has merit but as a desktop card, at this price, its crazy.

Look at the ghetto PCB on the Suprim X

PVvEO8al.png.jpg

Avoid this launch until Nvidia comes to its senses.

www.igorslab.de

NVIDIA turns necessity into a virtue: MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12 GB Review | Page 3 | igor´sLAB

Today I finally reveal the secret of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti in the form of the board partner card MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12GB, which is the smallest Ada card so far. The near-full AD104 is…
www.igorslab.de www.igorslab.de
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Looks like that's just MSI being cheap

Here is the gigabyte gaming model pcb

 
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Darujhistan said:
That's how we ended up where we are. There's forum regulars of years past now gone AWOL because they've been priced out. PC gaming has never been cheap because it's been irrefutably IMO the best platform and still is. But that gap for many has disapeared and they've gone console - can't blame them either. Not good when real enthusiasts lose interest.
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We are really at a turning point here. Either prices will swing back to normal, market-driven reality, or the market will normalize with prices being artificially propped up to beyond the pale (incidentally or "collaboratively") now by two companies that have capital to burn -- there's definitely a strategy they're playing. It's a game of chicken: on one side nV and AMD, and on the other the market.

PC gamers and the gaming industry is suffering at present, this much is clear.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Don't know about you but I'm more than happy to sit on my 3060ti until sanity returns to the market. £369, what a bargain, nearly 2080ti performance and was wildly praised. It and the 3080 brought excitement back in to pc gaming, now it's just depressing with every new release.
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The RTX 3070 8GB impressed me, especially just jumping into playing the Witcher 3 at 4K + 70FPS on launch, so same as RTX 2080 TI.

I sold it to my dad, but now I'm wondering if that was a good decision. At least he's got a good card, but I doubt he will use it much...
 
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"The 60 RT cores of the 3rd generation The new generation offers up to 2x ray tracing performance, Shader Execution Reordering (SER) improves ray tracing operations by a factor of two".
Link:
www.igorslab.de

NVIDIA turns necessity into a virtue: MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12 GB Review | igor´sLAB

Today I finally reveal the secret of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti in the form of the board partner card MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12GB, which is the smallest Ada card so far. The near-full AD104 is…
www.igorslab.de www.igorslab.de

Is the ray tracing performance really 2x per RT core, vs the RTX 3000 series?
 
g67575 said:
"The 60 RT cores of the 3rd generation The new generation offers up to 2x ray tracing performance, Shader Execution Reordering (SER) improves ray tracing operations by a factor of two".
Link:
www.igorslab.de

NVIDIA turns necessity into a virtue: MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12 GB Review | igor´sLAB

Today I finally reveal the secret of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti in the form of the board partner card MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPRIM X 12GB, which is the smallest Ada card so far. The near-full AD104 is…
www.igorslab.de www.igorslab.de

Is the ray tracing performance really 2x per RT core, vs the RTX 3000 series?
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Without DLSS, a 4070Ti is basically a 7900XT / 3090 in RT
 
g67575 said:
Is the ray tracing performance really 2x per RT core, vs the RTX 3000 series?
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Never ever believe a word that comes from Nv , AMD , Intel , Apple etc etc etc unless it has been independently verified by a reliable source.

The RT performance on the 4070ti is not bad but far far short of the 4090 and comparable to the AMD offerings.

P.s. I have gpus from the early 2000s with more densely populated PCBs than that MSi card.
 
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