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What do you think of the 4070Ti?

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Darujhistan said:
I did some quick mental maths at the time and thought the 3070 wasn't worth the extra. For any gain to be "worth it" at 1440p I was going to have to go 3080/6800XT, and I wasn't doing that. Luckily without knowing much about mining the 3060ti I bought (Gigabyte) was NON LHR and got £1100 for it a year later.

Same thing now, to double 6700XT performance I'm looking at 1K with maybe £250-300 back for my card Sapphire Nitro+, nah, it doesn't add up to me. I'll look at 7900XT in a couple of years when it's going EOL.
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Nobody I know has any interest in these new cards. I am in the same boat - if anything looking at the relative performance of the £800+ RTX4070TI,it's not even twice the performance of the RTX3060TI!

So price/performance has gotten worse and some people seem to want to defend this!
 
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Or the the fact they use the 4080/90 massive size coolers, goes to show the huge margins on these when they strap them on. At least the Radeons come in sensible sizes.
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A few of the 4070ti Hardware unboxed showed had the gargantuan 4090 coolers on them but the TUF version was relatively svelte by comparison so obviously a new design for the 4070ti...or they have reused the 3080/6800 coolers they had left over. They probably had a few of these left over and Asus cannot expect to sell that many of these cards.
 
I think I just want an improved 6700 XT with frame generation. That would deliver all the needed performance.

Leave out ray tracing, it's not worth the performance cost, whatever bells and whistles have to be enabled. It's the main reason Nvidia can keep offering cards that aren't an improvement in terms of price /performance.
 
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Well apparently FSR 3 will use a form of frame generation and may be platform and brand agnostic so may be available for older cards a few months after release.

Edit- I personally have no interest in frame generation of DLSS/FSR upscaling. I like native raster performance.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Nobody I know has any interest in these new cards. I am in the same boat - if anything looking at the relative performance of the £800+ RTX4070TI,it's not even twice the performance of the RTX3060TI!

So price/performance has gotten worse and some people seem to want to defend this!
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I'd be quite happy to upgrade if it made sense, same with AM5, i've got some disposable income, bought new keyboard, new speakers, new CPU, new RAM over the last few months, don't mind spending on my hobby, was going to top it off with new GPU, but I'm not getting robbed.

I'll never understand people arguing their own interests in defence of a brand but it's weird world we live in. People investing their own self-worth in corporations...

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Darujhistan said:
I'd be quite happy to upgrade if it made sense, same with AM5, i've got some disposable income, bought new keyboard, new speakers, new CPU, new RAM over the last few months, don't mind spending on my hobby, was going to top it off with new GPU, but I'm not getting robbed.

I'll never understand people arguing their own interests in defence of a brand but it's weird world we live in. People investing their own self-worth in corporations...

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I hate to think what the prices will be in a year or two when I might consider upgrading! :(
 
Haz123 said:
Well apparently FSR 3 will use a form of frame generation and may be platform and brand agnostic so may be available for older cards a few months after release.

Edit- I personally have no interest in frame generation of DLSS/FSR upscaling. I like native raster performance.
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I agree with that. I still think AMD have better IQ and software, NV have better RT. AMD better over time, NV better on release. Pick your poison.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its madness that the true replacement for the RTX3060TI will cost more than my RTX3060TI,Ryzen 7 5700X,32GB of DDR4 and my mini-ITX motherboard!
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Don't know about you but I'm more than happy to sit on my 3060ti until sanity returns to the market. £369, what a bargain, nearly 2080ti performance and was wildly praised. It and the 3080 brought excitement back in to pc gaming, now it's just depressing with every new release.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I hate to think what the prices will be in a year or two when I might consider upgrading! :(
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Probably best to just to wait and have look when you're really starting to struggle at your chosen resolution. I looked at going EOL 6000 series recently 6800xt,6900xt/6950xt - but couldn't bring myself to do it. Might be better in a couple of years but since people accepted Turing pricing it's been a runaway train.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Don't know about you but I'm more than happy to sit on my 3060ti until sanity returns to the market. £369, what a bargain, nearly 2080ti performance and was wildly praised. It and the 3080 brought excitement back in to pc gaming, now it's just depressing with every new release.
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I think 3060ti and 6700XT have held up well, had both.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Don't know about you but I'm more than happy to sit on my 3060ti until sanity returns to the market. £369, what a bargain, nearly 2080ti performance and was wildly praised. It and the 3080 brought excitement back in to pc gaming, now it's just depressing with every new release.
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Nvidia will try its best to not optimise drivers or settings in newer titles for the previous generations. Wait and see how Atomic Heart will perform on Ampere,Turing and RDNA2 and RDNA3 based dGPUs. You already saw it with Portal 2 where a few settings changes can improve performance for older hardware:

The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.

- get the smoother motion/fluidity of 100+ fps with pretty much the same latency, can't see any real downsides to this option The downside is that this is an unacceptably poor 'remaster' that uses frame generation as a crutch to make smooth framerates possible *at all* - I don't think that...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk

Basically jack up settings in the game which cause problems for other dGPU uarchs! The same happened with some Nvidia effects in The Witcher 3 and CDPR had to step in and help Kepler dGPU owners by adding more options in the game to tweak.

But in my case,it's quite easy to just avoid such titles and actually finish the games I already have!

Darujhistan said:
Probably best to just to wait and have look when you're really starting to struggle at your chosen resolution. I looked at going EOL 6000 series recently 6800xt,6900xt/6950xt - but couldn't bring myself to do it. Might be better in a couple of years but since people accepted Turing pricing it's been a runaway train.
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I am just going to stop chasing after some of these newer titles,because it is very easy for Nvidia and even AMD to just optimise more for their newer dGPUs and force you to upgrade. At least with consoles there has to be optimisations for the previous generations.
 
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RavenXXX2 said:
Don't know about you but I'm more than happy to sit on my 3060ti until sanity returns to the market. £369, what a bargain, nearly 2080ti performance and was wildly praised. It and the 3080 brought excitement back in to pc gaming, now it's just depressing with every new release.
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Yeh my 3060ti is really struggling at 4k, I'm even willing to spend 2x the money for 2x the performance with 2x the vram.
Seems amd or nvidia don't want my money. 7900xt is close but still £100 to expensive.
 
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Hedge said:
It's one of the current line of products where people will buy it and justify it by saying "well I can afford it so I don't care".

Just cos you can, doesn't mean you should.
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That's how we ended up where we are. There's forum regulars of years past now gone AWOL because they've been priced out. PC gaming has never been cheap because it's been irrefutably IMO the best platform and still is. But that gap for many has disapeared and they've gone console - can't blame them either. Not good when real enthusiasts lose interest.
 
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Darujhistan said:
That's how we ended up where we are. There's forum regulars of years past now gone AWOL because they've been priced out. PC gaming has never been cheap because it's been irrefutably IMO the best platform and still is. But that gap for many has disapeared and they've gone console - can't blame them either. Not good when real enthusiasts lose interest.
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More like people grow up and realise there are a lot more things they can enjoy for the same money as £2000 GPU or £500 mobo or £450 CPU or £350 ram or £200 nvme drive or £300 computer case or £1000+ custom cooling or £200 PSU or £1000 monitor
 
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