Congrats? I'm glad you're getting richer while your long term customers are getting priced out of their hobby.Well I think the hate for this card is helping it sell out, were nearly out on all SKU's priced sub £900.
I am also seeing most competitors close to selling out or sold out as well.....
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Why are people complaining about the 4070 TIs 4K performance?
72 FPS minimums in most games. A little behind the competition (7900 XT), which I'd say is a bit better at 4K, but both can handle games at 4K. The minimums are 56% higher than the RTX 3070, an 50% higher than the RTX 4070 TI.
The ugly thing is the prices.
RT performance isn't much better than the 7900XT either.... they are both bad for the money. we are paying £900 for mid level cards now, people buying these need a sanity check, people paying phone number prices for halo cards, i get that.... these are humble mass market level cards, its a Ford Focus not a Bentley. £900.
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I've done a really rough analysis on 4070ti and 7900XT/X on another thread, and I was damning about the price being charged for the amount of silicon, PCBs and ancilliary devices. Further, for the amount of silicon and memory, the 7900XT has woeful performance when compared to the 4070ti.
The price of both is exceptionally high. Both should be cheaper, and absolutely can be cheaper if NV and AMD wanted to increase sales.
I estimated the 4070ti to cost within 20% of the 3060ti to manufacture. And it costs... 100% more!
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Not really Gibbo's fault is it?
When the 7900s went of sale and were selling out some people became interested in how well they were selling and how well the 4080s were selling and asking Gibbo for details. Gibbo lets people know how well these are selling and people get upset...
Deffo not Gibbos fault. I know full well hes not happy with the prices and the state of the market.. He can only sell what's available at the prices set by the greedy manufacturers
Obviously not his fault but smuggly proclaiming the "hatred" is helping sales when we're all rightfully concerned about where the hardware market is heading can rub people the wrong way
No, no it's not... he's just a salesman, but they will get the majority of the flack because of the milking and that added extra BS for the OC taxes.
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It's business and they don't make a massive amount per GPU sold.
Besides, it's obvious Gibbers is drumming up FOMO
.Loads are buying one and other retailers selling out so you should buy one too before all sold out 
.Joking aside it'll be interesting to see if the sales are maintained once the initial demand has been absorbed.
I find it crazy an upper-mid tier GPU is £900+ but it is what it is. So far at least the 40 series has saved me money as I've not bought anything. Only GPU which interests me really is the 4090 but I don't game enough to justify £1600. As a tightwad I see that as a loss of £72 interest a year @ 4.5% which is now possible(fixed term) to buy something that will likely depreciate massively. Passive income for the win
and I'll stick with an older GPU.
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only 100-150quid profit, rich asf
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Yep damn these frigging prices - now even on mid tier ****..!
Wonder what the 4060 will go for, and how it performs. I really need to upgrade my old 2060S, but what the hell to do with these awful pricing :/
A buddy bought a 3080ti for cheap - pre owned, so thats maybe were I sould be looking right?
But that also means no DLSS3 - frame generation ..Damnit!
Wonder what the 4060 will go for, and how it performs. I really need to upgrade my old 2060S, but what the hell to do with these awful pricing :/
A buddy bought a 3080ti for cheap - pre owned, so thats maybe were I sould be looking right?
But that also means no DLSS3 - frame generation ..Damnit!
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You will be paying for frame generation to beat it in the odd game.
3090 Ti's even second hand are 900. If you can grab for msrp a 4070ti you are better off electricity useage. That's also taking into consideration you're getting a second hand card Vs a new one.
You pay your money you make your choice I guess.
Edit - I tried quoting multiple messages and failed... This was in response to the electricity use calculations against a 3090ti Vs a 407ti
You pay your money you make your choice I guess.
Edit - I tried quoting multiple messages and failed... This was in response to the electricity use calculations against a 3090ti Vs a 407ti
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Lasst two 3090TIs on MM were 700 and 800.
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Doubt next one will go for as much now though.
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I would be surprised if the 4070 (non ti) is much more than 5% faster than the 3080. Maybe it will be £600 instead of £650+. Maybe... I doubt even the AMD cards will be worth it to upgrade at this price point, and they may even still have worse raytracing.
But I was never expecting much this generation in £/performance. Due to >10% £/$ loss and 15% inflation from other sources in the last 2 years.
OK, plus sides? Cards do seem to hold a bit more value for longer than they used to 'back in the day'. They are more reliable too than they used to be. Though we seem to be back tracking on number of years official warranty. It will use less power. And that will save you some money over its lifespan. Throwing you a bone, I know.
You also got lucky at the £650 rrp!
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Will 12GB be enough for games with HD texture packs?
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