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What do you think of the 4070Ti?

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genuine question. what is it about my GPU purchases comment that shocks you?
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What, you were not in the Microcentre midnight queue with 'Nvidia - the way its meant to be played' T-Shirt on?

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Like many others, I sit here with my str0king my PS5 and Xbox patiently waiting for a GPU worthy of opening the most sacred of temples, the most holiest of holies - my wallet.

We shall prevail.

I shall sit here waiting for the GPU Pyramid in Stoke to be visible from Liverpool oh yea.

I shall wait for yea AMD Radeon/Nvidia Sales teams to sweat and buckle under the stress of collapsing sales volumes from AIB's. There shall be daily calls from Gibbo in March, lest he informs his industry contacts that the AMD and NVidia pyramids are getting bigger and bigger by the day and what can be done to stem this tide of collapsing margins and collapsing hopes of a 488 this year? The occupational health teams in the farthest reaches of the North West Midlands will be on full alert, fearing a collapse of the OCUK GPU Pyramids.

Stay steadfast my fellow GPU soldiers for, we, the most important of all GPU customers shall prevail during these dark times and we will show solidarity in the face of naked capitalism and naked aggression from the black leather jacketed one. We shall not be envious as we read about LTMatt as he requests another stock update from the warehouse and wonders whether to drive down there himself as he buys his 8th GPU of the month week day.

Oh yes, we shall prevail.
 
If you think the Execs at AMD and Nvidia aren't having daily meetings and pulling their hair out at this point you are quite frankly deluded. I've been buying graphics cards for 25 years, what's happening at this moment is unprecedented.
Pulling their hair about about low sales?

If they were pulling their hair out about low sales, they would lower the price of the products. I don't any indicators to support what you're saying.

Look, I have no data as well. I could be wrong, but I'm working with the available data.
 
Similar performance give or take raster and RT, similar price.

Yeah they are as bad as eachother, it need to be $100 if not $150 cheaper.

Again tho, if AMD can get another 10% out of the drivers.... i think the 7900XTX is a better card than the 4080 at its price. Right now its not.
Given that AMD have openly admitted their cards are 80 class in performance then they should be priced similar to the what the 6800XT with maybe a 20% bump for inflation so no more than $780 for the XTX and given the gap to the XT I'd say no more than $650 for that one.

Had they priced like that then they would have put Nvidia in a very difficult situation as nones going to buy a 70ti over an XTX unless they have CJD.
 
I was just looking at the prices. £830 being the lowest. The majority are £900. Some over £1000.

You know, despite knowing what price they were going to be, knowing NVIDIA was going to rip people off to the extreme, I still felt my heart sink when I actually saw them on websites. It just strikes home how greedy Jensen is, how much he just doesn't give a damn about the gamers. *sigh* will this misery ever end?
 
I was waiting on the actual performance instead of the vendor info. Confirmed as above posts, its not much better than 80 class Ampere and certainly commanding too much. Best to wait for the fallout from both brands where prices settle to where they should be.
 
I was waiting on the actual performance instead of the vendor info. Confirmed as above posts, its not much better than 80 class Ampere and certainly commanding too much. Best to wait for the fallout from both brands where prices settle to where they should be.
Disagree, we should all buy 4070ti's and bios flash them back to 4080's... :cry:
 
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I was waiting on the actual performance instead of the vendor info. Confirmed as above posts, its not much better than 80 class Ampere and certainly commanding too much. Best to wait for the fallout from both brands where prices settle to where they should be.
Yes.
I am really disappointed with the 4070ti. The main reason for me is the crippled memory. It effectively stops you overclocking it and means you can't upgrade your monitor. For a £900+ card, that's insanity. I wouldn't buy one even if I could justify that money.
 
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Read the room man!

It isn't really surprising that it has sold out. It will be sitting on shelf's gathering dust soon after the initial rush that every GPU at launch has.

We are entering the greatest recession / depression any of us have ever experienced. People will be saved from their own stupidity of buying these GPU's due to the fact the vast majority of people won't be able to afford them even if they do desire them.
You think he gives a **** ;)
 
Not sure RDNA is DOA, but it is definitely inefficient (in all senses) compared to the 4070ti. AMD could make it a fantastic product if they just dropped the price and tried to actually stoke some competition.

What was ridiculous were the performance claims made on release. 50% to 70% increase.... Erm?
i just feel RDNA 3 is a giant step backward for AMD. RNDA RX 5000 was great product. showed potential in the Radeon lineup. the pricing wasnt super competitive for MSRP or release prices as 5700XT was priced about 10% cheaper than 2070 Super.

RDNA 2 RX 6000 generally were ok - RX 6800 was a value king everything else was over priced for their competition range compared with Nvidia offering. 6700XT vs 3060ti/3070 just cannot measure up. RX6800XT is pointless.

Now RX7000 everything is over priced ie same price as nvidia offer for the same perf or worse....its crazy.

We keep on talking about Nvidia's generational price gouging. in my opinion, the RX 7900XT should be a RX7800 (non-XT) only considering the deficiet it has on perf. and AMD wants £800+ on that thing when RX6800 was MSRP £570-ish.

RX7900XTX is it really the equivalent of RX6900XT from last gen when compared with 3090 and 4090 respectively....I would say no. it is actually a 7800XT+ really so thats fgone from £650 to £1000+

AMD and Nvidia are both upselling. out of the two i think nvidia is more innovative in bringing out new features and technology. people rave or criticise their RT technology. albeit raytracing is available as open source but what nvidia had done and are still doing is very innovative and using AI etc adds another dimension to the products.

i would love to see two or three GPU manufacturers competiting and slugging it out. but atm, it doesnt feel like either care much about consumer or end user's wallet situation. neither care to compete on price point and both are happy to bring out lackluster product stacks to upsell their most profitable SKU. in AMD's case, all SKUs are junk status
 
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When AMD drop the bollock following up the release, then have vapour chamber gate; you can count on nvidia to still crash into the calamity and pretend stats to remind us again of how terrible the current gen farce has become.

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Even though I have no plans on buying a 4070Ti I've been watching a few reviews. Seems like the 192bit memory bus width and resulting poor memory bandwidth is really bottlenecking this card at 4k, so it's performant enough at 1440p but pretty useless at 4k. I'm starting to think this is deliberate on behalf of Nvidia, if you want to game at 4K you really need to spend even more and get a 4080 or 4090, even though this 4070ti has enough processing power to be OK at 4k they've intentionally hindered 4k performance with a small memory bus width. For comparison, this 4070Ti has similar memory bandwidth to a 1080Ti, it has less bandwidth then a 3070Ti, and even has less than the GDDR6X version of the 3060Ti. That's crazy, I'm surprised some of the more critical reviews (e.g. gamers nexus) aren't pointing out this particular comparison.


The "OC" tax is back. Non OC make the £799/$799 cut and will be gone then £49 for the same card for 30MHz quoted boost extra. (2610MHz vs 2640MHz)
So 6.25% more money for 1% boost clock, bargain. This is now standard practice.

Given that ALL of Nvidia's cards allow you to freely adjust the core clock and memory clock easily using free software, paying more for a higher clocked card is literally wasting money. Put your money in a card with a better cooler, then you'll have more headroom to increase the clocks manually. Buying a card based off the factory clock speeds set by the AIB is foolishness.


It's not bad on the government's coffers too at approx. £200 tax for cards priced at £999.99.

That's why it's best to buy used. You don't have the financial burden of the depreciation, and you don't pay VAT on private sales. Same with cars, anyone who buys a brand new car is wasting money or just plain rich and doesn't care about the money. GPUs depreciate much more than other PC components, which is why I've only ever bought a new GPU once in my entire life* (compared to dozens bought used) and will hopefully never do so again.

*I was impatient for 4k120/HDMI2.1 capability and had the spare cash for a 3080Ti. Kind of regret it but such is life, live and learn.


If you think the Execs at AMD and Nvidia aren't having daily meetings and pulling their hair out at this point you are quite frankly deluded. I've been buying graphics cards for 25 years, what's happening at this moment is unprecedented.

If you meant "laughing all the way to the bank" then I agree.


I sold my 3090 for 500 pounds, it's faster than the 4070ti at nearly half price. People shouldn't be buying new 4070ti's they should go buy second hand 3080/3080ti/3090 instead and pocket the money

In normal times I would agree. But when you consider the current crazy electricity prices in the UK, and the increase in performance per watt (4070Ti has almost double the perf/watt of the 3090Ti) it might be cheaper in the long run (6-12+ months) to buy a 4070Ti at £900 compared to a 3090Ti at £500. Depends how much gaming you do, I'd estimate that I would break even at around 10-12 months of gaming, so if I'm keeping the 4070Ti for more than a year it might be cheaper in the long run.

Then again there's depreciation like I mentioned above, a 3090Ti bought used today is not going to lose much more value in the next 12 months, maybe 25% loss. On the other hand a 4070Ti bought today is going to lose more than half its value in 12 months.


See how it's selling in a month when the fomo crowd have had their fill.

See how it's selling on ebay after the 5xxx series is released and the FOMO crowd are all trying to sell their 4xxx to lessen the burden of their 5xxx purchase. This is actually my current plan, buy a used 4090 for around £1k or less after the 5xxx is released.

The real play is to take a few years out of gaming and spend all that time investing in yourself and becoming a top revenue earner. Then you will have no issues dropping £5k on a 6090 in a few years time.

If it was that easy, everybody would do it. If hard work led to wealth, farmers/nurses would be the richest people on the planet. The world doesn't work like that.
 
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