What is white privilege?

[Roar87]

They dont just randomly check vehicles. Did they have a reason to check it or not?

They actually do, I know someone who was in the Police until very recently, they literally drive around at night checking vehicles. He did it between Leeds and Bradford where there's quite a lot of drug gangs operating.

 

[VincentHanna]

So a car registered in Yorkshire and being driven in London would flag suspicions I would have thought.

The argument then is - Why did they enter the number plate in the first place?

But of course police can/should be able to check any car they want. They are here to protect us so random spot checks aren't an issue.

 

[Hades]

Yes, I read the same thing and believed it, until I saw the video above.

Clearly the driver is a white male.

And in case it was edited, I checked out some other sites (Telegraph) who have mirrored the video, but you still see the driver for a brief few second around the 32 second mark

Hmm, yes he is definitely white in that video. Thanks.

As far as I'm concerned that blows her story out of the water.

EDIT: In fact it just makes her look like she wants to be a victim.
I also just noticed on that video that she has edited out the police response to why she was stopped. The video ends before their reply and, very significantly to me, it was edited at 00:45 to cut out the female officers reply.

 

[enkoda]

Because it's a bit more accusatory to say that, when the reality was, they keyed in the wrong number plate.

It could just have been an error in transferring private plates for example.

But now they've dug themselves into a bigger hole.

"Hello Mr X, we pulled you over because at first the licence plate didn't match the car's make and model, but we realised the wrong reg was entered, sorry for the inconvenience", police officer walks away, job done.

They dont just randomly check vehicles. Did they have a reason to check it or not?

I thought the police could stop a driver at any point to ensure a car is safe enough to be on the road, e.g. tyre tread depth?

Yes, I read the same thing and believed it, until I saw the video above.

Clearly the driver is a white male.

And in case it was edited, I checked out some other sites (Guardian) who have mirrored the video, but you still see the driver for a brief second.

Cameras can have trouble compensating for exposure, particularly when the camera is in a dark environment and pointing to a source of light, so it's reasonable to assume the driver could have been mixed race and his skin appeared much lighter.

I wonder if Joe Public will ever get to see the bodycam footage.

 

[Bazzards]

But of course police can/should be able to check any car they want. They are here to protect us so random spot checks aren't an issue.

There should be no argument then.

 

[VincentHanna]

Cameras can have trouble compensating for exposure, particularly when the camera is in a dark environment and pointing to a source of light, so it's reasonable to assume the driver could have been mixed race and his skin appeared much lighter.

I wonder if Joe Public will ever get to see the bodycam footage.

Well I guess it could be a trick of the light/camera exposure - seems pretty unlikely though as in both videos (same camera I know) the driver looks white

 

[GGizmo]

I noticed in the telegraph video the officer said that the first time the registration was scanned it came back as being from Yorkshire as a different vehicle. But when he ran the plate again it came back as the correct vehicle.

So I typed in ANPR mistakes, and up popped this story;

Up to one MILLION errors a day by dodgy CCTV cameras leaves motorists at risk of wrongful prosecution and hefty fines, bombshell report reveals
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/52965...ion-and-hefty-fines-bombshell-report-reveals/

Call for statutory regulation of police number plate cameras amid concerns over accuracy
https://www.computerweekly.com/news...ould-be-regulated-amid-concerns-over-accuracy

So with the background context of the technology making so many mistakes it seems situations like this occur regularly and is nothing to do with racism.

 

[Dis86]

They dont just randomly check vehicles. Did they have a reason to check it or not?

Yes, they do.

 

[Theophany]

They dont just randomly check vehicles. Did they have a reason to check it or not?

The police do around here. It's a fairly common occurrence that they spend a few hours on a weekday flagging down motorists where they check you've taxed, insured and MOT'd your vehicle.

Don't see why they'd bother doing it in London though as the place is absolutely littered with ANPR cameras these days.

 

[Jokester]

Yes, they do.

I've had the police follow me home and then speak to me on my own drive way for no reason.

 

[Dis86]

I've had the police follow me home and then speak to me on my own drive way for no reason.

I've had the same. No qualms about it, means they're doing their jobs and trying to catch criminals.

 

[Jokester]

I've had the same. No qualms about it, means they're doing their jobs and trying to catch criminals.

Indeed, we had a polite conversation and they then went on their way. And that was the end of it.

 

[R.P.L]

I've had the police follow me home and then speak to me on my own drive way for no reason.

I hope you got some video footage up on social media

 

[stockhausen]

The police do around here. It's a fairly common occurrence that they spend a few hours on a weekday flagging down motorists where they check you've taxed, insured and MOT'd your vehicle.

Don't see why they'd bother doing it in London though as the place is absolutely littered with ANPR cameras these days.

I can't see why the Police would flag anyone down to check that the vehicle is MOTd and Taxed, https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ works perfectly well and I suspect that the Police also have access to a vehicle insurance database.

Also, I believe that many patrol cars have ANPR onboard with cameras front and rear. In my experience, on the rare occasions when they have stopped me they already know where the vehicle is registered and to whom - they also know my driving licence details.

 

[Hagar]

Got to keep an eye out for the Yorkists. We don't want another Wars of the Roses.

 

[Theophany]

I can't see why the Police would flag anyone down to check that the vehicle is MOTd and Taxed, https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ works perfectly well and I suspect that the Police also have access to a vehicle insurance database.

Also, I believe that many patrol cars have ANPR onboard with cameras front and rear. In my experience, on the rare occasions when they have stopped me they already know where the vehicle is registered and to whom - they also know my driving licence details.

I have no idea why, but they have been doing it for years and still do, I'd have thought the exact same as you that there's no need for it these days what with all the kit they have in their cars. The place in question is the ring road in Stourbridge. I'm lucky to say that I've never been collared, even when I was a young scrote ragging around there in between college lessons in a souped up hatchback.

Now I'm 30 and I rag around there in an old fart estate car!

 

[Hagar]

I have no idea why, but they have been doing it for years and still do, I'd have thought the exact same as you that there's no need for it these days what with all the kit they have in their cars. The place in question is the ring road in Stourbridge. I'm lucky to say that I've never been collared, even when I was a young scrote ragging around there in between college lessons in a souped up hatchback.

Now I'm 30 and I rag around there in an old fart estate car!

As a young motorcyclist back in the day, I knew every police officer for miles around our small town in Hampshire. They knew me and weekly at least used to do a roadside check and give me notice to produce my documents at a local police station. All this even though they knew them off by heart.

Being a tolerant friendly bloke but also a tool on two wheels, I took this genially without kicking off and as a rite of passage

 

[banbom44]

According to the information the cops typed in a wrong number of her registration and stopped her. Once the issue was noticed she was allowed to continue on her way.

This wasn't a stop and search. It is highly possible the cops didn't know what race the person was when they first set off after the car.

But Dawn Butler is claiming its because shes black.

Of course she is claiming that woman is a complete moron one of the reasons i will never vote Labour again you could see how excited she was thinking this is my George floyd moment she even said she was traumatized lol don't forget our tax money goes on this anti british woman.

 

[Johno please?]

It wasn't a part of an ANPR check because the number plat would not be wrong if it was automated. So an officer decided to check on them. But why? What was the reason they felt the need to check someone's registration?

Have you never been stopped by the police when driving?

I've been driving 20yrs and stopped randomly 3 times in total. All within a short space of when I was 18-21 OMG wait......... the poleece are ageist!!!11111

 

[stockhausen]

I have no idea why, but they have been doing it for years and still do, I'd have thought the exact same as you that there's no need for it these days what with all the kit they have in their cars. . . .

. . . which kinda suggests that the Police were making it up as they were going along - so one has to ask

"Why did the Police stop the car in which Dawn Butler was being driven"?​