What to do with undesirables

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Yes, it's a difficult one. But not once has she renounced what she has done, more that she wants the UK safety blanket.

"if there are reasonable grounds to suspect that anyone who is entitled to return to this country either committed or facilitated acts of terrorism, they should be fully investigated and where appropriate prosecuted. Our priority must always be public safety."

Seems a decent line to take.
 
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I would allow her kid to come back to her family, since it's fully innocent and shouldn't be in the care of the mother who is grossly unfit to be a mother.

But she joined a terrorist organisation that is worst than National Socialism after getting some of the best education in the world in the school system, she had the freedom of the internet to educate herself further on ISIS which am surely she did and still went ahead and joined them.

I don't believe she was "brainwashed", she wasn't wooed by some guy on the internet, she made a choice to join them and I don't think it needs to be said, that she doesn't regret it, she's now an adult and doesn't feel any remorse even after seeing some guys head in a bucket.

She know about the beheadings and killings and was "OKAY WITH IT" in her own words.

After watching and reading all the interviews with ISIS members, she is full of lies and deceit.

The SDF and their American protectors should take her, it's their responsibility. They should put her in a jail for a good long time. After that, she is free to live anywhere she wants, just not here.

I finish it up, if it wasn't for the Americans protecting the SDF, the SAA and the Russians would had crushed them a long time ago and this girl and everyone with her would had bombed by Syrian or Russian jets and no one would ever know, no one outside of her family would care, we wouldn't even be having this discussion, nothing of value would had been lost.

If she comes here, it will cost us £100,000's if not more keeping a eye on her, giving her a home, benefits and debriefing her, hell no, that's insane.

I would prefer to spend the £100,000's on all the Yazidi women that ISIS raped.

She's a danger to everyone here, she cares about her baby yes, but you should care about your babies.

But here we are.
 
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I'm pretty sure we will have to take her back due to UN laws we've signed up to, maybe if we pull out of the UN we could have a return to common sense.
what about shipping them to British territories but not the UK itself?

South Sandwich Islands look nice for them to live on! Perfectly legal right?
 
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I'm pretty sure we will have to take her back due to UN laws we've signed up to, maybe if we pull out of the UN we could have a return to common sense.

That would be fine if we could put her straight into jail or extradite her to Russia or something (I'm sure they'd love to put her on trial).

I have zero hope of her being allowed back and going to jail though. Heart bleeding would prevail.
 
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How long before Diane “Hackney hippo” Abbott and jeremy “IRA sympathiser” corbyn start screaming to give the poor girl a second chance and that she is misunderstood?
 
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Though I'm no fan of ISIS and Islamists etc.. I'm also quite fond of liberal values and actual social justice etc.. (not the current SJW identity politics **** we have these days).

If she's committed no crime and doesn't have dual nationality then we have to let her back IMO, we don't need to actively risk lives trying to extract her mind. The kid needs to be taken away from both her and her family (there are (AFAIK) legit questions about her dad/the kid's granddad and they hardly did a great job of raising her so why risk it).

However the ISIS bride of peace, despite being an un-remorseful religious idiot still ought to be allowed back here and perhaps monitored.

Ideally the kid ought to be fostered or adopted and have a secular upbringing* and perhaps be told about who his parents are when he gets to 18, he/she can then make their own mind up if they wants to believe in all the religious guff his biological relatives are into and/or whether they want any contact with them.

*unfortunately the UK general seems to still want to inflict adopted kids with whatever religious **** their biological parents happened to follow.
 
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Though I'm no fan of ISIS and Islamists etc.. I'm also quite fond of liberal values and actual social justice etc.. (not the current SJW identity politics **** we have these days).

If she's committed no crime and doesn't have dual nationality then we have to let her back IMO, we don't need to actively risk lives trying to extract her mind. The kid needs to be taken away from both her and her family (there are (AFAIK) legit questions about her dad/the kid's granddad and they hardly did a great job of raising her so why risk it).

However the ISIS bride of peace, despite being an un-remorseful religious idiot still ought to be allowed back here and perhaps monitored.

Ideally the kid ought to be fostered or adopted and have a secular upbringing* and perhaps be told about who his parents are when he gets to 18, he/she can then make their own mind up if they wants to believe in all the religious guff his biological relatives are into and/or whether they want any contact with them.

*unfortunately the UK general seems to still want to inflict adopted kids with whatever religious **** their biological parents happened to follow.
The treason act will do it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasons_Act_1534
 
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Seems a bit unfair for us to foist our problems onto other nations. Child needs to be brought back and put into care, she should face a jury of her peers for any crimes and then go into phych treatment.
 
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The 19-year-old told Sky News: "People should have sympathy towards me for everything I've been through."

:D:D:D

She is so utterly delusional. Hated this country so much she decided to join the enemy, and now thinks we should feel bad for her? I can't believe the people supporting this idiot. In fact, I'd stick them firmly in the 'enemy' category too.

It's about time this country found its balls again.
 
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She should be brought home and brought to trial, anything else is a dereliction of our duty as a supposedly civilised nation.

Sajid Javid is a wannabe tough guy that is massively overstepping his remit to try and score points. And judging by this thread, I can see people lapping that up. Pathetic. We have certain responsibilities for our citizens irrespective of what they might have done overseas.
 
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People keep throwing around the word "groomed" like the were bought drugs, alcohol and called beautiful.

The reality is many were shown videos where they were promised big houses and sports cars if they help give birth to the next generation of "lions of Raqqa" who would slaughter every non-Muslim man, woman and baby on the planet.

The depravity IS indulged in would make even the Nazis wince. They filmed it and used it as recruitment propaganda to show how strong true Muslims were. I've had the unfortunate pleasure of having to view these videos shown to young girls and it nearly made me vomit.

She knew exactly what to expect over, and that's despite having moderate parents for the first 14 years of her life it appears. I wouldn't have her or the child here if I was given the choice. But alas since it's a full blown certainty she will be back then a life sentence would be appropriate
 
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