What would make me want to buy a mac?
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It doesn't really matter which platform itunes was designed for as due to ipod popularity, more people probably use them on pcs rather than macs. the software is bloated regardless of the platform.Fanboyism aside he's right though sid.
I can't even get iTunes to run on my PC at the mo but it's a dream on a mac (which is what it was designed to run on in the first place).
I get the impression you haven't used a Mac because you don't seem familiar with the interface or the software.
Seriously give it a go and you will see just how robust it really is. Far better than Windows.
I agree with you about the customisability of FireFox but have you used Safari 3 on Leopard? It's quicker than greased lighting.
Panzer
I have used all of them believe me, and I never disagreed that they arent fast.
Oh and its only better than windows if you can't use windows
I still have time to tweak and mess about with windows and thats fine for me but one day i will retire to a mac pro for sure.
Oh whatever
Seriously mate, you are the troll who has posted a pointless comments and think you need a degree to use macs rofl.
I don't see what your qualifications has anything to do with this.
itunes is a bloated piece of software.
Come back when you stop being such a child.
Ok stop trolling now, and posting your opinions as fact or we could do this all day/night.
this isn't really helping the op at all.
But it's not bloated on a Mac is it? it runs smooth as a babies arse in OSX.
Fair enough.
Oh and its only better than windows if you can't use windows
This phrase gets banded about by PC users so often and it really gets on my ****. I've been taking computers apart and messing with Windows for 10 years now so I should be able to 'use' it. Doesn't stop it from ******** up all the time. I've got four separate bits of software just to make sure my PC runs adequately. (and that's if you count all the stuff Tune-Up does as one app).
I still get BSOD, app hangs and the like.
I've just got to the stage where I would rather spend my time being productive and getting my work done than having to tweak and mess about with the computer to keep it doing what it's supposed to do.
Maybe I've just decided to retire early. It's the same with cars, when I was 17 all I wanted to do was take my car apart and put it back together again. Now all I want it to do is start first time and get me from A-B.
Panzer
Just because something runs smooth doesn't mean its not bloated, i think you are missing what i'm getting at and its causing unnecessary agression from macboys.
I've never had any of the problems that you've described with my pc, but yeah they are common place lol
Anyways i'm off to sleep now.
hope the op likes his macbook.
I found Vista on my MacBook Pro to be quicker than Leopard, by a long way.
Windows also didn't cut out every couple of seconds when using MSN - which is something Apple haven't fixed in about a year more.
Nice design, well built (apart from the optical drive - which is crap) and shouldn't be too difficult to learn the ropes.
Windows also didn't cut out every couple of seconds when using MSN - which is something Apple haven't fixed in about a year more.
Nice design, well built (apart from the optical drive - which is crap) and shouldn't be too difficult to learn the ropes.
Soldato
It seems to be that macs and windows machines are on equal footing.
I use a mac at work, a linux laptop on the move and a windows box at home.
However, I always miss the windows. Love it or hate - it is what 90% of people know.
Mac's pee me off with that lack of intuition at times - or could it be my instinct has been shaped by using Windows and dos for so long?
Who knows? Who cares?
PC sales will continue to rise, mac sales will continue to rise... so... ? meh.
Mac's will always sell (now) style over substance (cf. MacBook Air and iPhone)... they don't need to try.
I hate arguments in the OP, though, OSX isn't virus proof - at all, it's just no one can be bothered as they don't have a market share - yet. The "do more" argument is laughable as is the faster. Faster at what? I have three OS machines - each have their weakness in terms of speed. And finally, easy to use? I doubt that. I really doubt that. If anyone has an IQ above 80, Windows and OSX are just as easy to use. OSX loses points in my eyes for silly things - like not being able to refresh a folder.
I use a mac at work, a linux laptop on the move and a windows box at home.
However, I always miss the windows. Love it or hate - it is what 90% of people know.
Mac's pee me off with that lack of intuition at times - or could it be my instinct has been shaped by using Windows and dos for so long?
Who knows? Who cares?
PC sales will continue to rise, mac sales will continue to rise... so... ? meh.
Mac's will always sell (now) style over substance (cf. MacBook Air and iPhone)... they don't need to try.
I hate arguments in the OP, though, OSX isn't virus proof - at all, it's just no one can be bothered as they don't have a market share - yet. The "do more" argument is laughable as is the faster. Faster at what? I have three OS machines - each have their weakness in terms of speed. And finally, easy to use? I doubt that. I really doubt that. If anyone has an IQ above 80, Windows and OSX are just as easy to use. OSX loses points in my eyes for silly things - like not being able to refresh a folder.
Soldato
I Use Vista on my main PC as I play games and need a 8800GTX on my 24" monitor and no mac can touch this, if apple made a games machine then I might change but cant see this happening. I have a Macbook pro 2.33 core 2 duo with a X1600 256MB card which I duel boot with vista also and use this at my girlfriends house. It plays most games great when with vista/xp bootcamp. I love using OS X leopard and Vista and don't see why I have to be in one or the other camp and lucky that i can afford to have both platforms.
P.S
itunes Vista = Rubbish as not even supported on 64bit
itunes OS X = Spot on
P.S
itunes Vista = Rubbish as not even supported on 64bit
itunes OS X = Spot on
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iTunes
iTunes for Windows is a completely different kettle of fish.
I primarily use both platforms, and have to say it "feels" a lot different on Windows (Vista & XP). Not sure I'd go as far as saying it's bloated, but it's definately slower on the PC.
If you're finding it a lot slower, you could try turning off the automatic searching for Apple TVs, and shared libraries, turn off the ministore and check that you aren't using duplicate files by telling iTunes to leave your music folder alone.
The Winamp argument just makes me to be honest. It's a totally different application. Ok, so it can do a lot (if not more) of the same features of iTunes, but it's not cross-platform which just makes the logic flawed. Admittedly, it probably is "less bloated" than iTunes, but that's because it looks like poop.
iTunes on OS X feels very snappy, on Windows, it doesn't.
No Virii on OS X
There will always be the people who will tout the "proof of concept" virii that have defeated the statement, but the fact is, there are no virii in the wild that can infect the OS without admin permission. You would have to type in the password, click confirm and be a complete twonk to get infected on OS X.
Ok, so the marketshare of the Mac isn't prompting people to write these virii, but I couldn't think of a more desirable virii to write than one that could take out say, an iPhone, or just for the "shut up" factor and kudos... yet it's not been done.
Intutitive Operating System
If you give the OS a chance you'll find things are more logically thought out.
Prime example, the OS X Vs. Windows Vista Control panel.. need I say more?
Price
Yes, you can get cheaper notebooks (The Mrs' uses Acer 5920, 15.4", 160GB HDD, 2GB RAM, Vista Home Premium; basically a simular spec to a MacBook Pro but a third of the cost) but they look like poop.
You do also pay for build quality, and a certain amount of "brand" value, but you'd do the same for a car (BMW). It could be argued that Apple charges a simularly steep price for their desktop line but just try speccing the same server hardware on Dell. It's not so bad, if not cheaper.
iTunes for Windows is a completely different kettle of fish.
I primarily use both platforms, and have to say it "feels" a lot different on Windows (Vista & XP). Not sure I'd go as far as saying it's bloated, but it's definately slower on the PC.
If you're finding it a lot slower, you could try turning off the automatic searching for Apple TVs, and shared libraries, turn off the ministore and check that you aren't using duplicate files by telling iTunes to leave your music folder alone.
The Winamp argument just makes me
to be honest. It's a totally different application. Ok, so it can do a lot (if not more) of the same features of iTunes, but it's not cross-platform which just makes the logic flawed. Admittedly, it probably is "less bloated" than iTunes, but that's because it looks like poop.iTunes on OS X feels very snappy, on Windows, it doesn't.
No Virii on OS X
There will always be the people who will tout the "proof of concept" virii that have defeated the statement, but the fact is, there are no virii in the wild that can infect the OS without admin permission. You would have to type in the password, click confirm and be a complete twonk to get infected on OS X.
Ok, so the marketshare of the Mac isn't prompting people to write these virii, but I couldn't think of a more desirable virii to write than one that could take out say, an iPhone, or just for the "shut up" factor and kudos... yet it's not been done.
Intutitive Operating System
If you give the OS a chance you'll find things are more logically thought out.
Prime example, the OS X Vs. Windows Vista Control panel.. need I say more?
Price
Yes, you can get cheaper notebooks (The Mrs' uses Acer 5920, 15.4", 160GB HDD, 2GB RAM, Vista Home Premium; basically a simular spec to a MacBook Pro but a third of the cost) but they look like poop.
You do also pay for build quality, and a certain amount of "brand" value, but you'd do the same for a car (BMW). It could be argued that Apple charges a simularly steep price for their desktop line but just try speccing the same server hardware on Dell. It's not so bad, if not cheaper.
Dell XPS M1330. Same size (13.3") as a MacBook, slightly thinner at one end and slightly thicker at the other, but a much better spec for the same money (£700). Just as solid - if not moreso - and as well-built as a MacBook, and a lot of the casing is metal too rather than plastic. Also comes with some very nice little extras (slipcase, in-ear earphones, leather wallet for manuals/CDs and a media remote that fits into the PC Card slot).
I looked at getting a Mac when I was buying that thing, because I genuinely would find it quite interesting to have a different OS to play around with (albeit I'd never switch) and become more comfortable with. But I had to look at it from a practical point of view, and I could see I'd probably end up booting into Vista on it a lot purely to use Office 2007 etc, seeing as it's software I've already bought. Value for money came into the equation too, and I simply couldn't bring myself to pay £600 (HE discount) for a notebook with no DVD Writer and 1GB of RAM. For once (for me at least), the PC notebook managed to beat the MacBook in virtually every area. Better spec, better overall package, better build quality.
Exactly.
TheVoice's Dell XPS M1330 looks like a very dull very boring bank clerk. The MB looks like a model. The MBA looks like a size zero model.
You have to pay a premium for good design. If you care about the design you will pay the premium. If you don't give a monkey's then by all accounts get something else. Just don't berate others about their choice because they consider the design as part of the whole package.
It's like in the Hi-Fi section on here, if you even breath a word of Bang & Olufsen you get shot down for buying over priced rubbish that doesn't have the same spec as similarly priced but fugly alternatives.
Both will cope just the same I'm quite sure with most tasks you throw at them, they might do them in different ways but I can't really see your productivity being hampered by either platforms (unless windows crashes j/k
)Just like all but the most anally retentive audiophiles wont be able to hear the difference between B&O and the nearest alternative the Hi-Fi bods will recommend. Both systems will play music at a very agreeable quality. The B&O (or the Mac) in this case will just do it in style.
Call me superficial but I'm a Graphic Designer. It's my job to worry about the way things look.
Panzer
I wouldn't buy a B&O over something like a Rotel, NAD or Rega. Just shows vain people are. B&O are overpriced, and ok. Not great. I'll take function over form, thanks. If it looks nice then that comes second.
SVS PC Ultra 13 or Rel Quake subwoofer?
Lol the dell xps is much better designed than the macbook by miles.
you cant compare a white plastic shell which goes yellow(I've seen it believe me) to the brushed alu and matt black finish of the xps m1330.
I have the latter and compared both side by side. Sure the other apple laptops are better but not the macbook.
sid
you cant compare a white plastic shell which goes yellow(I've seen it believe me) to the brushed alu and matt black finish of the xps m1330.
I have the latter and compared both side by side. Sure the other apple laptops are better but not the macbook.
sid
Man of Honour
Well in my opinion the XPS looks like a 15 year old would think looks cool. In my mind it just looks tacky. The key point there is 'in my opinion', you're just throwing what you think around as fact.
not really mate,
How is brushed aluminium and a magnesium alloy chassis not more "well built" than white plastic macbook??
you are arguing pointlessly.