When are you going fully electric?
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This lolThe bloke who shared the story didn't even have an EV. It was some make belief fiction as he endured a long drive in a Dacia Jogger Diesel
"Poor guys in their EV!!!"
*kids in back wishing for an ipace instead of some romanian tin with a diesel generator*
Losing 12V power ‘bricks’ any car, are you really going there?Standard Tesla features. Especially the bricking partUpdates brick them, losing 12v power bricks them, touchscreens die, CPUs die. **** that.
Software updates don’t routinely brick cars. There are no specific faults/known issues with touch screens Touch or CPUs - they don’t just ‘die’.
You’re making up complete and utter nonsense which the theme behind your contributions to this forum.
I've driven my model 3 twice to the middle rural France, 500+miles each way. Charging infrastructure is excellent (Supercharger). I also just plug into the normal socket at destination, its a Gite in the middle of nowhere so the car lowers the amps automatically and charges slower. It detects the drop in voltage and uses that to guide how much to safely consume.
Love the fact that auto pilot does most of the work for me.
It requires 2-3 charging stops and one of those is always at the tunnel whilst I wait for my train. The other 1-2 always have double digit numbers of chargers free...
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heh, good timing! I managed to brick my eNiro yesterday, shortly after extolling it's virtues to one of my brother's mates at a festival. Left the boot open too long whilst making a coffee, and completely killed the 12v battery - cue me needing a jump start from the guy with his trusty diesel Volvo 
I then found out that the hybrid actually has a button you can use to manually recharge the 12v battery from the main traction battery - quite why the EV doesn't also have this is beyond me
I then found out that the hybrid actually has a button you can use to manually recharge the 12v battery from the main traction battery - quite why the EV doesn't also have this is beyond me
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Teslas constantly charge the 12v (or 16v li-ion) battery as long as the main battery is more than 20% soc I think.heh, good timing! I managed to brick my eNiro yesterday, shortly after extolling it's virtues to one of my brother's mates at a festival. Left the boot open too long whilst making a coffee, and completely killed the 12v battery - cue me needing a jump start from the guy with his trusty diesel Volvo
I then found out that the hybrid actually has a button you can use to manually recharge the 12v battery from the main traction battery - quite why the EV doesn't also have this is beyond me
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That makes more sense, the Niro only does when the car is switched on...
Yes but normally when 12v is restored it isn't still a problem...
Tesla has had loads of issues with faulty screens, faulty flash memory and dead CPUs, infact it was so common it was investigated by regulators a few years ago. They used Nvidia components which aren't really automotive grade, which is probably why.
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youv'e forgotten the FSD in the cons list - the rest you can live with.
The Tesla is never really ‘off’ in that there is no on/off switch in the car so there is always a small amount of electronics running even when ‘asleep’.
The car isn’t constantly charging the battery but those electronics monitor the low voltage battery and wakes the car up to charge it when it’s getting low. If the car is ‘asleep’, the high voltage battery contractor will be open. It normally only needs to charge it once a day or every few days if the car hasn’t been used.
The battery is relatively small so it does run out quickly if there is a a fault condition, it will run out fairly quickly.
It isn’t in a Tesla. If you restore 12v power, the car boots up and you can use it has normal. You are making nonsense up.
No. Again you are making up stuff like usual.
There was a specific issue which caused the EMMC storage to ware out in early Model S cars that was fixed via recall. A recall is not a gesture of good will, it’s a recall. Most were fixed proactively at the owners conscience, not due to a failure.
Shock horror a car gets a recall, who’s have thought it. The issue affected a few thousand cars, hardly a big deal. Its not even an nvidia part, it’s just a commodity storage chip found in millions of devices, including cars.
As for screens, a very small number of first early Model S cars have had an issue with the big LCD screen where the liquid in the LCD started to leak/evaporate. It still worked, it just didn’t look very nice as where the liquid escaped, it left and air bubble.
If the car was under warranty it was replaced, if it wasn’t the owner did have to pay. Most owners never encountered the issue as they had previously opted to retrofit the newer infotainment system which Tesla offered so they could take advantage of the latest software features and more importantly, a 4G modem.
The first gen cars were only equipped with 3G modems and 3G connectivity was withdrawn by the U.K. government. The retrofit bought the car up to date with the cars made years later.
So Nasher, since when were two small issues which weren’t even what you said they were and impacted a few thousand cars at the most ‘loads of issues’.
The Model 3 and Y are up there with some of the most reliable cars.
The S/X probably would be if they didn’t have their infamously complex door handles/doors.
PSA - if you are heading to/From Scotland via the M6, Tesla just opened up a 16 bay super charger at Gretna shopping village 1 min off the motorway.
Owner/subscriber price: 34p/kwh or 43p/kwh between 1600 and 2000.
Contactless price: 42p/kwh or 53p/kwh between 1600 and 2000.
Considerably cheaper than Apply Green, Tesla (Tesla only) and Ionity at the services just up the road so I can see it being popular.
Owner/subscriber price: 34p/kwh or 43p/kwh between 1600 and 2000.
Contactless price: 42p/kwh or 53p/kwh between 1600 and 2000.
Considerably cheaper than Apply Green, Tesla (Tesla only) and Ionity at the services just up the road so I can see it being popular.
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When did that open, looked like it was still being worked on yesterday afternoon.
About 95 mins ago
Should be very popular indeed. I was up in Scotland a couple of weeks ago and stopped at Gretna both on the way up and down. It was reasonably busy on the way up, though it probably helps that Tebay (J38 M6) is open with upgraded capacity again. Any extra charging hubs are certainly welcome.
Soldato
I see I shouldn't have poked the bear with EVangelicals. Hey ho!
But, I will note that we drove our oh-so humble and allegedly crappy petrol Jogger from Villelongue de la Salanque up to Abbeville in 12½hrs today, probably around 1100km (~680 miles). Around €35-40 in tolls (€13.30 of which is the Millau viaduct all by itself, but very worth it!). Two fuel stops: Aire du Cantal, stationary for 20 mins fuelling, having a coffee and a bathroom stop; and the E.Leclerc fuel dump at Nonancourt, stationary for the five minutes it took to top the tank off. Plus a 15 minute break around lunchtime to eat a snack, and a quick stop in Lèves near Chartes for another coffee that was probably about 15 mins as well.
The Jogger OTR price was £18,500 or thereabouts last spring. I'll work out the exact route we took, if any of y'all want to find me an EV that could do that trip carrying what we were carrying (two people, luggage, 48 bottles of wine), climate control set for 19°C, in the same time on the same route that you could buy new for £18,500.
Oh, and if anyone has experience of the Fiat 500e at all as a town/city/maybe occasional ~100 mile trip car I'd like to pick your brains please
But, I will note that we drove our oh-so humble and allegedly crappy petrol Jogger from Villelongue de la Salanque up to Abbeville in 12½hrs today, probably around 1100km (~680 miles). Around €35-40 in tolls (€13.30 of which is the Millau viaduct all by itself, but very worth it!). Two fuel stops: Aire du Cantal, stationary for 20 mins fuelling, having a coffee and a bathroom stop; and the E.Leclerc fuel dump at Nonancourt, stationary for the five minutes it took to top the tank off. Plus a 15 minute break around lunchtime to eat a snack, and a quick stop in Lèves near Chartes for another coffee that was probably about 15 mins as well.
The Jogger OTR price was £18,500 or thereabouts last spring. I'll work out the exact route we took, if any of y'all want to find me an EV that could do that trip carrying what we were carrying (two people, luggage, 48 bottles of wine), climate control set for 19°C, in the same time on the same route that you could buy new for £18,500.
Oh, and if anyone has experience of the Fiat 500e at all as a town/city/maybe occasional ~100 mile trip car I'd like to pick your brains please
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I see I shouldn't have poked the bear with EVangelicals. Hey ho!
But, I will note that we drove our oh-so humble and allegedly crappy petrol Jogger from Villelongue de la Salanque up to Abbeville in 12½hrs today, probably around 1100km (~680 miles). Around €35-40 in tolls (€13.30 of which is the Millau viaduct all by itself, but very worth it!). Two fuel stops: Aire du Cantal, stationary for 20 mins fuelling, having a coffee and a bathroom stop; and the E.Leclerc fuel dump at Nonancourt, stationary for the five minutes it took to top the tank off. Plus a 15 minute break around lunchtime to eat a snack, and a quick stop in Lèves near Chartes for another coffee that was probably about 15 mins as well.
The Jogger OTR price was £18,500 or thereabouts last spring. I'll work out the exact route we took, if any of y'all want to find me an EV that could do that trip carrying what we were carrying (two people, luggage, 48 bottles of wine), climate control set for 19°C, in the same time on the same route that you could buy new for £18,500.
Oh, and if anyone has experience of the Fiat 500e at all as a town/city/maybe occasional ~100 mile trip car I'd like to pick your brains please
Congratulations - the point you’re missing is that I don’t want to buy a Dacia Jogger.
But then I’m not sure what the point you’re trying to make is exactly…
2% between Skoda and Tesla, I am pretty sure he was referring to build quality
According to a better route planner, the same journey would take 12 hours 9 mins in my Tesla Model Y including 3 charging stops totalling 45 mins which is about the same amount of time you stopped for. The car could do it in 2 stops but it would take slightly longer to do it, I doubt I could do it in 2 stops though, I'd probably want to do 3.
A better route planner is usually pessimistic in terms of energy consumption so I've got plenty of confidence that I'd make that time no problems.
I get that a Tesla Model Y isn't £18,000 but it also isn't a Dacia Jogger. I don't say that to diss the Jogger, its got its place in the market, its just that the Tesla is an objectively better car in every way other than price.
EDIT: I just realised I had ABRP in caravan mode with a max speed of 60mph - fail. Removing the limit reduces the time to 11 hours 4 mins including 58 mins of charging over 3 stops. Looks reasonable to me.
Oh, and if anyone has experience of the Fiat 500e at all as a town/city/maybe occasional ~100 mile trip car I'd like to pick your brains please
I've not driven one but 500e is a good little car if you manage your expectations in terms of range but 100 miles should be more than achievable. If anything its a bit expensive for what it is, I'm pretty sure you can get a used VW ID.3 for similar money and doesn't have the tiny city car limitations.
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