When are you going fully electric?

Simon said:
The brake pedal also does regen even in lowest regen setting. And if you have throttle modulation issues then I imagine passengers must feel sick with max regen ?

The most efficient driving is no regen too. No braking no regen just keep momentum up
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Why are you being a arse? I have no throttle modulation issues, I do it purely to extend my range and get the maximum miles per kw and the lowest running costs. I also know the car does regen in normal mode when braking. I know how my bloody car works and I have been driving since 1985 so I know how to drive a car. You still maintain momentum with max regen on, when no other cars and juctions are in the way anyway and you have to think ahead only using a single pedal to drive.
 
You said you struggled to modulate not me. Regen isn’t magic. There are still losses moving energy so better to just cruise
 
SexyGreyFox said:
That Mg4 did last night in ECO Mode, it just seemed the pedal was pushed down further and it still went like a rocket.
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pastymuncher said:
That's not correct at all. If you need the power it's always there, you just push the pedal down further than you normally would. It sort of smooths out the power delivery while giving a bit of extra range. It will still take off like a rocket if you need it to which I have done quite a few times to get past slow moving lorries.
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How do you think you get real world extra range from a throttle map. Only a few evs actually do real eco things.
 
That was quite an annoying video, such falseness on the EV charging side, at this stage I'm pretty sure they know how it all works.

But interesting to see that even the 'race driver' suggested the 5N was more fun that the M2, so some progress on driver engagement in EVs at least from Hyundai. Have seen then with 10k off the last week which is promising for a more reasonable price. 40min fill up is a bit slow for tracking it mind.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
I don't know, just observing in ECO Mode it still went like a rocket that scared the pair of us.
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Just turn eco off in the winter. The heater will probably dialled down and it’s like a eco kettle. Just takes longer to warm up.

It’s a completely pointless feature. And any mode you will soon get used to despite feeling like Saturn V now
 
sandys said:
That was quite an annoying video, such falseness on the EV charging side, at this stage I'm pretty sure they know how it all works.

But interesting to see that even the 'race driver' suggested the 5N was more fun that the M2, so some progress on driver engagement in EVs at least from Hyundai. Have seen then with 10k off the last week which is promising for a more reasonable price. 40min fill up is a bit slow for tracking it mind.
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You must have been watching a different video. The 'race driver' said the M2 was more fun in the corners, better brakes, more predictable and quicker. But I do agree that the Hyundai is the most fun EV on the market right now and that is progress.

Other EV manufacturers need to do something similar tbh.
 
At the very end when he did the summary, he said the M2 was the better car for putting a fast lap on track and he'd take it all day but the Hyundai was more fun @21m:30 that in it self is something that EVs don't do well, so well done to Hyundai. Noticed a couple cracking 57k this last week, bodes well for next year when I am booted out of my daughters car :D
 
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Well who does, I test drive the ones I am interested in personally, but its always good fun to watch, though this carwow vid was a pretty poor one TBH which is a shame as being able to do these things back to back on circuit is quite a luxury that they seemed to want to waste with the charging focus, bit different to some one like me testing a Porsche for 30mins on the road one month and a Lotus another, never really being able to stretch abilities or solidly compare.
 
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Mat watson is the modern day clarkson. Bit of a bell, but entertaining. Ease of charging is hugely improved nowadays, contactless payment or Electroverse, it just works. He’s driven just about every EV on the market so I’m sure he would know about charging curves.
 
I5 n does look a lot of fun, but I’d rather have the BMW for track duties and the standard ionic for day to day duties.
 
Simon said:
You said you struggled to modulate not me. Regen isn’t magic. There are still losses moving energy so better to just cruise
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I said no such thing at all.

Simon said:
Just turn eco off in the winter. The heater will probably dialled down and it’s like a eco kettle. Just takes longer to warm up.

It’s a completely pointless feature. And any mode you will soon get used to despite feeling like Saturn V now
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How is it a useless feature? Have you ever driven a newer Leaf? Turning on Eco mode increases the regen rate. Increased regen rate equals more charge back into the battery which equals a longer range. There are a lot of long hills around here where you can regen most of the way down as we are usually stuck behind a artic or someone crawling along at 45mph.
 
Yes this is what it can help with downhills. But for me I just stick cruise on and it stays behind truck or at set speed down hill with the car doing the regen.
 
I've not driven an EV so this may be a completely daft question... Why does the car need to be in Eco to maximise the regen? I'd have thought that would be achieved through the brake pedal anyway with the car doing as much slowing down as possible using regen instead of the hydraulic brakes?

It may just be people that are new to EV driving but I see so many instances of cars pulling into lane 2+ and instantly the brake lights flash. Like they've booted it to increase speed then coming off the throttle has cause it to slow via regen. That surely can't be more efficient than the car coasting off throttle?
 
lordrobs said:
I've not driven an EV so this may be a completely daft question... Why does the car need to be in Eco to maximise the regen? I'd have thought that would be achieved through the brake pedal anyway with the car doing as much slowing down as possible using regen instead of the hydraulic brakes?

It may just be people that are new to EV driving but I see so many instances of cars pulling into lane 2+ and instantly the brake lights flash. Like they've booted it to increase speed then coming off the throttle has cause it to slow via regen. That surely can't be more efficient than the car coasting off throttle?
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Exactly. Most cars eco has no impact on regen. Weird the leaf does. Edit. New leaf
 
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lordrobs said:
I've not driven an EV so this may be a completely daft question... Why does the car need to be in Eco to maximise the regen? I'd have thought that would be achieved through the brake pedal anyway with the car doing as much slowing down as possible using regen instead of the hydraulic brakes?

It may just be people that are new to EV driving but I see so many instances of cars pulling into lane 2+ and instantly the brake lights flash. Like they've booted it to increase speed then coming off the throttle has cause it to slow via regen. That surely can't be more efficient than the car coasting off throttle?
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Not every car is the same, so you can't really ask that and get an accurate answer. As an example I can set a regen on our Ioniq, and use the paddles to come to a full stop even if regen is on the lowest level, the mode the car is in does not have any impact for this purpose.
 
The older leaf has D mode and B mode. B gives full regen when you release the accelerator. D gives 50% until you press the brake pedal..

Eco mode has no effect on regen, it's just a less reactive accelerator map.
 
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