Shock horror cheap used car is cheaper than expensive new car, call me surprised.
But would you trust a 10 year old EV?
When are you going fully electric?
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But would you trust a 10 year old EV?
At 10 years so many things start going wrong on any car, the battery would be the least of my worries tbhBut would you trust a 10 year old EV?
Only the oldest Leafs had terrible battery mangement pretty much any other car I'd say yeah no problem
You are in the minority then. EVs that old are worth less than the equivalent petrol cars and they are very hard to sell.
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Just had Octopus's logistics company on the phone
Car is coming Wednesday !
Mine has been stuck on the contracts signed bit for a few days now. The guy at octopus phoned me on Friday to confirm car spec etc before ordering and then it hasn't moved since then.
I'm getting a bit anxious because the price was a bargain black Friday thing and it's gone up significantly since.
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I have found another call seems to bump things along. I'd try calling them again and asking for an update
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I have found another call seems to bump things along. I'd try calling them again and asking for an update
I'm in mid panic about my meter and Charger install anyway so not gonna rush too much lol.
I had put off getting a smart meter for ages cos I cba dealing with unnecessary work. But now it's necessary for my new car and charger install I need to get smart meter fitted ASAP!
Just transferred my gas/electric to octopus with intention to move to their intelligent ev one as soon as I'm up and running
Factor in the difference in fuel costs over 10 years and I bet the ice is more expensive.
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Just had Octopus's logistics company on the phone
Car is coming Wednesday !
How long did it take from order to delivery?
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So Ford released the EV puma today, not sure what to think. Pretty small battery, 43kWh, £30k so encroaching on cost of other cars with larger batteries, EV3 for example.
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i think at that price Ford are going to struggle.
Renault 5, MG4, Citroen E C3, vauxhall corsa E, and likely so many more either way cheaper OR as you say longer range.
that is gonna have to lose at least £5k i suspect (and even then i would rather have a R5 - but that may be because visually at least i am somewhat of a fanboi)
30k for a Fiesta basically (which isn't as good as an actual Fiesta).
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All I've been able to find is a few details. Battery size and exact price hasn't been revealed yet. Some suggest 50-60kWh.
The ICE version of the Puma is already a £26k starting price car, much more than the equivalent Corsa or C3 etc. and it's currently the best selling car in the UK so far this year, I suspect they're reasonably confident the electric version will do OK
let’s be realistic, the real price is not £30k, no one is paying that.
But yes, as others have said the 43kwh battery is too small for a car of that size.
It’s on the Ford website, it’s 43kwh for the standard range which is the only model on sale.
Just 220 miles WLTP range if you add the premium pack for £2k, that’s just dire. 234 miles without.
Applying my usual rule of thumb of knocking off 1/3 for those cold winter days it takes you down to 160 miles real world range in winter…
But yes, as others have said the 43kwh battery is too small for a car of that size.
It’s on the Ford website, it’s 43kwh for the standard range which is the only model on sale.
Just 220 miles WLTP range if you add the premium pack for £2k, that’s just dire. 234 miles without.
Applying my usual rule of thumb of knocking off 1/3 for those cold winter days it takes you down to 160 miles real world range in winter…
You can configure it on their website
Starts at £29,995, 43kWh battery, theoretical max range of 230ish miles (probably more like 180 miles in reality), 168PS, 0-60 8s
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i hope so. Ford need to have a good high volume selling EV, and in principle i like the Puma as it is a more sensible size at least as a 2nd car to augment the family vehicle. Also if it sells well it may slow down the EVs are not selling narrative a bit from companies like Ford.
BTW i had no idea the puma was selling so well!. i barely see any of them knocking about compared to other cars, such as the model 3
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perhaps but its the RRP.
i doubt many are paying £26k for a corsa E either, and if the entry price of a R5 is what (from memory) £23k? chances are with a bit of wheeler dealing and bargain hunting sooner or later you will be able to get them for £20k as well.
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Oh ok. Had only looked at an auto express article when I googled it.
I see they are advertising it as a city car, so guess that's when the battery size. However it needs to be cheaper. Don't think it's even a dedicated EV platform either.
That’s the real issue. If it’s up against other EVs built on dedicated electric only platforms it’s never going to be competitive in terms of range/ efficiency/reliability/pricing regardless of how much they discount it.
You could get away with repurposing ICE platforms for EVs a few years ago but there’s too much competition out there now.
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They have the Explorer for a dedicated BEV, albeit not their own platform. At least kuga gives a cheaper car with their own hardware etc. A battery Fiesta was never gonna happen in terms of hiding the battery so this is the next best thing.