When are you going fully electric?

b0rn2sk8 said:
Have you got solar and is it set to solar charge only? A classic installation error is putting on the CT clamp the wrong way round that can impact this.

Check if you/it have any grid limits E.g. 60a fuse? It could be throttling back due to how much you are pulling from the house.
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Yes I have solar and no not to solar charge only. I wish I was generating 4.5kwh at this time of year! :D Shouldn't have a limit but will check the fuse, had to have a new board for it. Will speak to the electrician tomorrow.
 
Feek said:
My friends son has a Tesla model Y and we borrowed it yesterday. We were doing a 308 mile round trip (154 miles each way) with four adults and no luggage.

He picked me up with a full charge, after ninety miles we stopped for breakfast and it had dropped to 51% charge. The services had no Tesla superchargers and the "fast" chargers they had were all in use so he plugged it in to a non fast charger. By the time we'd finished breakfast (we were deliberately slow), it had only charged to 82%. We continued our journey and on the return trip, the sat nav wanted to divert us via the superchargers at the M11 Stortford junction because it was predicting we couldn't complete our journey and was showing -12% in red.

We stopped at the same place on the way home, managed to get one of the faster chargers and it topped up to 90% so we managed the journey back with no issues.

We do this trip once a year, we normally stop for a quick break on the way up and don't stop on the way back. As a result of taking the Tesla, it took longer to get there, longer to get home and there was a mild case of range anxiety. The car was in normal mode, not sporty or anything fancy like that, it was driven to the speed limit and very rarely booted hard.

I believe the estimated range is 270 miles on a charge. I appreciate that's under ideal conditions but we'd have been lucky to get 180 miles on a charge. That's still pretty poor, isn't it?
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He should just stick to Tesla Superchargers, almost always have food etc near, car will preheat if it knows it's going to one too for faster charging etc.

Range seems low though, but no idea why.
 
FerretBoy said:
He should just stick to Tesla Superchargers, almost always have food etc near, car will preheat if it knows it's going to one too for faster charging etc.
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Easy to say, the one it tried to divert us to on the way home was about thirty miles off of our route. That, plus the time spent would have added over an hour to our journey.
 
EV's really seem to take the joy out of driving though no? Went for a trip to Sharjah the other day in my Caddy, floored it through various segments, was great fun. Had to drive to RAK today for work and had to squeak by at 80kmh, at points doing 70kmh just so I can make range as stopping at a supercharger in the morning was not ann option. Dont think I've driven like this since I was a broke student trying to extract max mpgs in my S reg 998cc Nissan Micra....
 
The Chemist said:
EV's really seem to take the joy out of driving though no? Went for a trip to Sharjah the other day in my Caddy, floored it through various segments, was great fun. Had to drive to RAK today for work and had to squeak by at 80kmh, at points doing 70kmh just so I can make range as stopping at a supercharger in the morning was not ann option. Dont think I've driven like this since I was a broke student trying to extract max mpgs in my S reg 998cc Nissan Micra....
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Only if you are driving economically.

I tend to just use the fun pedal a lot as not many of my journies are that long.
 
Feek said:
My friends son has a Tesla model Y and we borrowed it yesterday. We were doing a 308 mile round trip (154 miles each way) with four adults and no luggage.

He picked me up with a full charge, after ninety miles we stopped for breakfast and it had dropped to 51% charge. The services had no Tesla superchargers and the "fast" chargers they had were all in use so he plugged it in to a non fast charger. By the time we'd finished breakfast (we were deliberately slow), it had only charged to 82%. We continued our journey and on the return trip, the sat nav wanted to divert us via the superchargers at the M11 Stortford junction because it was predicting we couldn't complete our journey and was showing -12% in red.

We stopped at the same place on the way home, managed to get one of the faster chargers and it topped up to 90% so we managed the journey back with no issues.

We do this trip once a year, we normally stop for a quick break on the way up and don't stop on the way back. As a result of taking the Tesla, it took longer to get there, longer to get home and there was a mild case of range anxiety. The car was in normal mode, not sporty or anything fancy like that, it was driven to the speed limit and very rarely booted hard.

I believe the estimated range is 270 miles on a charge. I appreciate that's under ideal conditions but we'd have been lucky to get 180 miles on a charge. That's still pretty poor, isn't it?
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If it’s a standard range model y? If so 180 miles range isn’t that’s far out of expectation if it’s not being driven particularly economically. If your not used to driving a BEV then your probably not getting the most out of it.

If it’s the long range dual motor, you’d have to be driving it pretty hard to only get 180 miles out of it.

I have a standard range model 3 and I did around 220 miles today with 3 stops and got back with 14%. Driven to the speed limit the whole way. Yeh, I’ll get more out of it than a model Y, but it’s not that much more.

The tesla nav only sends you to their own chargers, great if they are en-route, not so much if not. There are plenty of other decent sites out there once you get to know where they are.
 
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I drove from New Hampshire back home last weekend (almost 400 miles), left with 95% charge and stopped at a Starbucks/supercharger once en route. The car was ready to go before I had my drink!

I arrived at home with 12% left, obviously if you can't charge at home and don't leave with a full battery it must suck.

I think it's great having a car with almost 700hp but no fuel consumption penalty.
 
Range in EVs is even more misleading than MPG claims IMO. My car was on trickle charge the last two nights - 100% battery. It states 200 miles. I pull off of the drive. It states 198 miles. The thing is just a lol. Zero confidence.
 
Feek said:
I appreciate that's under ideal conditions but we'd have been lucky to get 180 miles on a charge. That's still pretty poor, isn't it?
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For a Tesla Y LR, that's well below the expected the range.
I have a Polestar 2 which has worse efficiency than a Tesla 3 & Y and can easily manage 220 miles on a full charge.
 
dLockers said:
Range in EVs is even more misleading than MPG claims IMO. My car was on trickle charge the last two nights - 100% battery. It states 200 miles. I pull off of the drive. It states 198 miles. The thing is just a lol. Zero confidence.
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There's an EV guy I watch on youtube, he calls the range the 'guessometer' :D
 
dLockers said:
It states 200 miles. I pull off of the drive. It states 198 miles. The thing is just a lol. Zero confidence.
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Did you put the heating/lights on ... even the ambient temperature will impacts it's estimation ... would be nice if a petrol car said if you do journey at a particular speed x range will be y

b0rn2sk8 said:
I’m talking about using an OBD reader and the ‘scan my tesla app’ to can read the full BMS information including lifetime AC and DC charging, total KW used, nominal full pack amount and actual full pack amount etc etc.
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you actually have that data, or you are speculating ... I've just seen bjorn with an obd reader that shows current/dynamic battery & motor characteristics,
but, even, applications like teslafi, apparently won't give historic data, say, from a previous owner.
 
Uther said:
There's an EV guy I watch on youtube, he calls the range the 'guessometer' :D
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I'd go along with that 100%. There needs to be a massive effort to fix the range anxiety, and it isn't just "plan better".

Perhaps as batteries get better/cheaper there can be a "buffer" battery to cope with the peaks and troughs and try and get to something near 95% accurate on the range estimate.

jpaul said:
Did you put the heating/lights on ... even the ambient temperature will impacts it's estimation ... would be nice if a petrol car said if you do journey at a particular speed x range will be y
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Nope - literally just pulled off of the driveway.


Also whoever signed off Peugeots app needs to die in a fire.
 
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You are basing it on one EVfor all ?

Both the ipace and my cupra born seem accurate. Heating on full blast will take range from 210 miles to 130 immediately on the screen. 5-6kWh does that. The biggest issue I’ve found is rain. The car can’t forecast the extra work of the tyres pumping water and on a 230mile drive yesterday I had to do an extra splash and dash to make sure I made it as the consumption increased significantly

Many already have a buffer of net Vs gross battery

I’ve done 2000 miles on 6 weeks on the cupra and the range is now always 200 miles when full. Before it was 235 but that was a lie. Seems it’s learnt it’s real range.
 
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