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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

ASMB said:
Yes mostly old gen cards like Polaris in the AMD top 20. 6800 only accounts for 1.8% of AMD mining cards at best, compared to the 17.74% of the 3070 for Nvidia cards, and these 2 cards were often compared to in reviews. Supports the view that 6800s were much harder to find than 3070s.

Nice to see OcUK have the 6800 at below MRSP now though for those who waited out the shortage
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AMD were over leveraged with commitments into Ryzen 5 + xbox + PS5 + gpu, they simply didnt have the wafers. Add in contracts for cpu , video cards are at the bottom of supply. Now, AMD are getting Apple`s 5nm wafers as they move on, they can flood the market with product. Nvidia make 1 thing - gpu`s.
 
gpuerrilla said:
You have just cherry picked the most popular mining card out of the gen. The reason it was the most sought after was a) price b) hash rate , combine the two and you have a winner! This leaves the rest of the SKU's that were nowhere near as attractive bar the 3060Ti when that released. You have pretty much answered what you were trying to counter, most of the cards were scalped. The second part to this statement is people were buying from the scalpers. Take a look at all the cards at msrp right now and they are not selling many at all. Want to know why? They already bought them last year from the scalpers.

There are way more 10 and 20 series cards out there being used for mining.
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As far as I recall I don't think I ever said that gpus weren't being scalped. Indeed some people who didn't start out with the intention of buying and selling their gpu for a profit did so. If you look through my old posts you will see that I was honest about doing that myself. I bought a 3060ti Fe card with the intention of keeping it, but when I had the opportunity to trade it for an AMD 6800 I decided to. I sold the vega56 that I had bought new at the discounted price of £235 for a profit. Did I know when I bought it that I would make a profit on it, no. So I think there were not only intentionally scalpers but unintentional scalpers

You agree that the 3070 was a popular because it had a high hash rate, hence why scalpers could make a profit on it, sell it to miners.
 
ASMB said:
As far as I recall I don't think I ever said that gpus weren't being scalped. Indeed some people who didn't start out with the intention of buying and selling their gpu for a profit did so. If you look through my old posts you will see that I was honest about doing that myself. I bought a 3060ti Fe card with the intention of keeping it, but when I had the opportunity to trade it for an AMD 6800 I decided to. I sold the vega56 that I had bought new at the discounted price of £235 for a profit. Did I know when I bought it that I would make a profit on it, no. So I think there were not only intentionally scalpers but unintentional scalpers

You agree that the 3070 was a popular because it had a high hash rate, hence why scalpers could make a profit on it, sell it to miners.
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I am not objecting that miners bought GPU's, the difference is how people generalised it into being way more than reality. In the UK we have taxes on income and fairly high energy prices compared to other nations, its not really a good spot for mass scale mining. I watched the markets for selling since middle of 2021 and there has been no mass sell off.

The 3070 series was launched near the beginning (december 2020?) before other sku's were available and was the cheapest in the line up at the time. It also had good hashrate so it was the natural target of any miner and gamer!

The first six months was difficult to buy any of the cards unless you were willing to overpay. This was exacerbated by people buying more than one for themselves or placing mass orders and selling on the rest. You do not have to be a miner to fit into this demographic as you have shared. Then as you mention people actually profited or benefited from the craze because second hand cards like vega's were going for more than brand new cards. There were plenty of people selling up on this forum from 5700XT's and getting a 6000 series with some change. I myself had a vega that I sold to a friend as his prebuild was on hold until he rang them to ship it without gpu.

We shall see how bad the scalping is this release as now crypto has tanked, miners all selling up it will be hard to blame them this time round!
 
gpuerrilla said:
The 3070 series was launched near the beginning (december 2020?) before other sku's were available and was the cheapest in the line up at the time. It also had good hashrate so it was the natural target of any miner and gamer!


We shall see how bad the scalping is this release as now crypto has tanked, miners all selling up it will be hard to blame them this time round!
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Just as there were unintentional scalpers how many gamers became unintentional miners? They wanted a 3000 series, the prices were higher than they really wanted to pay but went ahead and bought anyway deciding to pay for the extra cost via mining. I think that there will be less higher end next gen sold than higher end 3000/6000 series as less gamers will make up the extra cost via mining. I only ended up with a 6800 series as I had the 3060ti to move on (the games I usually play run at 1440p on a 6500xt!).
 
ASMB said:
Just as there were unintentional scalpers how many gamers became unintentional miners? They wanted a 3000 series, the prices were higher than they really wanted to pay but went ahead and bought anyway deciding to pay for the extra cost via mining. I think that there will be less higher end next gen sold than higher end 3000/6000 series as less gamers will make up the extra cost via mining. I only ended up with a 6800 series as I had the 3060ti to move on (the games I usually play run at 1440p on a 6500xt!).
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I agree. Once you join in though you are a miner full stop being part of the equation - which is why there is probably a massive voyeur base watching but will never post. But there are and will be more common place intentional scalping as retailers choose not to combat it, equally so the desperate punter that is willing to just part with the easy cash. It doesn't really matter if they are a gamer or a miner so long as the scalper has his profit. They will be just as much of a problem to gamers than anything and won't be going away this gen that's for sure!
 
quite a lot of mining rigs going up on facebook market place, wondering if the amount im seeing is normal.
edit: just saw an msi 3090ti suprim x go up for £650. So it begins... Seller promises no mining has been done. Another for £350, surely that's a scam though.
 
Checking prices 3080 is still the same at £699 so glad i brought one, as i suspected no drop in the 3080's and why would they if they are selling like hot cakes.

3070 and 3090 is the ones i can see with massive price drops. the choice will be people waiting for a 4070 which will be just on par with a 3080 and uses more watts or buying the 3080 which will last some years anyway.
 
Frenzy said:
quite a lot of mining rigs going up on facebook market place, wondering if the amount im seeing is normal.
edit: just saw an msi 3090ti suprim x go up for £650. So it begins... Seller promises no mining has been done. Another for £350, surely that's a scam though.
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Not even a miner would sell a 90 for £350. Marketplace is absolutely rammed with scammers right now.
 
But JayzTwoCents told me I would be an idiot not to buy awhile back
(Possible further signs of 4000 series launch announcement later this month)
 
Does it make a huge difference which brand of GPU you choose? I'm eyeing both a Gigabyte and an ASUS RTX3070 for when prices drop, but not sure what's so different about them?
 
ninjag said:
Does it make a huge difference which brand of GPU you choose? I'm eyeing both a Gigabyte and an ASUS RTX3070 for when prices drop, but not sure what's so different about them?
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They all use the same GPU chips from Nvidia, although some are binned for higher overclocks than others. However, the more expensive cards often have better coolers, beefed-up power delivery systems, and more expensive electronics on the circuit board i.e. higher quality capacitors, MOSFETs, etc.
 
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