Missing 4k bluray drive, HDMI cable and controllers (not some cheap knock off ones)...
Does that motherboard have Wifi too ... ?Nope so need to add Wifi card too.
And an OS
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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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Agreed. I definitely wouldn't recommend this seriously for someone that wants to be on a PC, just was curious to see if prices dropped enough to beat the console, and they have. For PC gamers planning for upgrades is absolutely important for maximising value, which is one of its (many) advantages vs a closed system like a console (but could also apply to laptops etc.)I agree with you that you can build something console beating for 600, I don't suggest anyone to do that. Not because it won't be a great experience, but because sometimes spending more money saves you money. Spending 1k instead means you not only beat the PS5 comfortably, it means you beat the PS5 pro and probably the PS6 as well with just a GPU upgrade, since you can keep the rest of your PC. That was always my go to. When the ps4 came out, I just upgraded the GPU on my 2008 PS3 beating PC (got a 7870xt) and there you go, cheaper than a ps4
If you're serious about blu-ray (for media) then you aren't using the PS5 either as it has subpar quality, so that point is moot because otherwise games for PCs aren't sold on disc anymore. As for cables & controller, there's £50 left and you can fit that it. Can probably add a mobo with wi-fi as well, or just buy a dongle, I tested a £10 TP-link one which worked fine wayback when. I'm not a wi-fi pleb so you'll have to search for that yourself.Missing 4k bluray drive, HDMI cable and controllers (not some cheap knock off ones)...
Does that motherboard have Wifi too ... ?
Windows is free now, officially.
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Soldato
I think it looks perfectly playable now. I guess it also shows what can be done of devs spend a bit more time tweaking things. OK so you sacrifice some stuff but when you're mid game you don't spend long staring at textures or counting rats.
But yes I also appreciate there's resolution changes here. But again. It's on a system that costs same as a gpu
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Yeah this is it for me. Like we can call such a PC a "PS5 challenger" or something but "beater" sounds like a stretch.
If you're serious about blu-ray (for media) then you aren't using the PS5 either as it has subpar quality, so that point is moot because otherwise games for PCs aren't sold on disc anymore. As for cables & controller, there's £50 left and you can fit that it. Can probably add a mobo with wi-fi as well, or just buy a dongle, I tested a £10 TP-link one which worked fine wayback when. I'm not a wi-fi pleb so you'll have to search for that yourself.
I use an Oppo UDP-205 as the main 4k player but a ps5 would make a nice spare and a decent one for the average user to watch discs on and help the media stay relevant in the eyes of the general public too.
Was teasing you about the rest
.Speaking of which, in recent DF video they were mulling the PS5 and possibility of a refresh and were of the opinion that game devs aren't yet extracting all its got to give due to crossgen considerations historically.
So the bar to hit will have been moving over the years.
Yes, but they have apparently dropped the resolution to 1080p and cut the frame rate of animations for some objects (like rats).
The fact remains is that the console hardware, even though it was a console with no Windows OS overhead etc struggled at 1440p and could only do 30fps, which is poor by today's standards of PC hardware.
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Its hardware that came out in 2020 and only now are we seeing new gpus priced anywhere near it.
Soldato
Uhm, yeah but the PS5 didn't really cost 500 back in 2020 either. In fact - especially in EU, youd be lucky to find it available at all, and if you did youd be looking at 700 to 800 euros. My brother - who in fact had let's say "connections" managed to get this hands on it for 700 in late 2021.
Which tells you a lot about the average consumer. Streaming gives you horrible banding, especially on dark scenes and the sound is obviously worse. Sony has a better service at up to 100Mps but 4K disc is still the best quality. I think this applies to console Vs GPU, a console can be good but the higher end dGPU will always be better, and so it should be.
Soldato
Easier and cheaper wins at the end of the day. Plus I can't put the disc in with my remote.
That said I do still prefer my games on disc, or at least the option, mostly for access to the second hand market.
Don't get me wrong I stream TV and stuff you can't get in physical but it's hard to beat a top film on 4K blu-ray, HDR, OLED and a good sound system. Love a good monster movie to get the sub moving!Easier and cheaper wins at the end of the day. Plus I can't put the disc in with my remote.
That said I do still prefer my games on disc, or at least the option, mostly for access to the second hand market.
Soldato
By that logic we can say my 3070fe didn't cost £480 because I sold mine for over a grand.
But also it's still hardware from 2020 regardless of when it got picked up. The fact gpus only now are catching up is a joke.
When the ps3 was out my reasonably priced pc noticeably crapped allover it.
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Seems like there's some failed scalping going on with the 4070 or something "as new" going for less than retail. Guess they didn't get the memo that the party's over?
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Did you really just sum up PC gaming as wanting to mess about in menus? That's a really **** poor argument and not the own you think it is.
Infact the whole PC vs console debate is idiotic, if you care about games you get the platform those games are on, be it PC or console or whatever.
Soldato
I'm not sure i summed it up like that. I'm pretty sure I said a lot more in previous posts.
"The own"? Do people say this? Seems I'm out of the loop with pc gamer lingo.
And the last bit. I agree with. Judge the games and people's ability to enjoy them. Not stress too much over how many fps ya gettin.
Soldato
Putting the price up is maybe a good strategy to scare people in to buying. They don't want it to go up more, better buy now for the current high price!
Or it's a good way to have the price drop in a week or two, and get the "price drop" sales.
Or it's a good way to have the price drop in a week or two, and get the "price drop" sales.
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Probably will want to make a discount a bit further down the road which will seem bigger this way
)Nvidia they milk the fanboys but most things I have watched its a terrible card bang for buck at its original price
if you can I would consider skipping this years releases