yeh, i just took my blu ray/dvd player out of my tower lol.
Literally havent used it in years.
Physical media is over and will have completely gone the way of the dodo soon, even on consoles.
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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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yeh, i just took my blu ray/dvd player out of my tower lol.
Literally havent used it in years.
Physical media is over and will have completely gone the way of the dodo soon, even on consoles.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£88.99 @ )
Motherboard: ASRock A520M-HVS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£49.98 @ )
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£33.99 @ )
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£39.98 @ )
Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card (£299.00 @ )
Case: CiT Home RGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£31.95 @)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£54.95 @ )
Total: £598.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
I didn't include the shops for exact prices because it would be against the rules but rest assured you can find the deals if you want to. All brand spanking new.
Ideally you'd spend a bit more on the long lasting components which can do 10+ years (PSU, case etc.) but you can definitely beat a PS5 with a PC today for £600. Particularly in RTX titles an Nvidia GPU simply gives you a mammoth advantage, even for the lower end cards.
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I haven't had one for 8 years now. I really don't see the point anymore
A PS5 is what, 10% slower than a 6700 XT? Even if you ignore the games where it runs out of VRAM a 6650 XT is still not beating a PS5.Yeah, it doesn't involve cherrypicking
Does it run the game at ultra? Of course it doesn't. I knew beforehand someone would do just that, show me some graphs run on ultra and compare it to ps5 running on ultra low but yeah, sure, whatever.
Am I now supposed to post a graph where the PS5 drops to 480p or 17 fps? Or are you done with cherryypicking?
I was fed up of the noise it made when i turned the PC on
May have been sucking a few watts of power even at idle so thought i would get rid.
i would be very surprised if the next gen of consoles (ie PS6 etc) were not completely disc - less
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I agree with you that you can build something console beating for 600, I don't suggest anyone to do that. Not because it won't be a great experience, but because sometimes spending more money saves you money. Spending 1k instead means you not only beat the PS5 comfortably, it means you beat the PS5 pro and probably the PS6 as well with just a GPU upgrade, since you can keep the rest of your PC. That was always my go to. When the ps4 came out, I just upgraded the GPU on my 2008 PS3 beating PC (got a 7870xt) and there you go, cheaper than a ps4
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I still don't believe that a PC with specs worse than that will beat the PS5 most of the time. Maybe in some situations the 3060 will do better like with RT but it won't do better every time. I think for a PC to be a "PS5 beater" it should beat it comprehensively not just trade blows with it.
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Not even trying to hide it anymore
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Having options isn't really a big pro for me . I want my game to just run at its best without me touching a menu. I want to click start>new game and then know it's running best for hardware provided.
I appreciate it's nice to have options but that's more for people like yourself who I assume with a name of Bencher likes tweaking.
A person has a console to play games. Not to mess about in menus.
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On paper, sure, it's between a 6600xt and a 6700xt. In practice, no, it isn't, lower power targets and all that. It gets beaten handily by the 6700xt, not sure about the 6600xt.
I'd say he's in a blessed space where he willingly forfeits the need to concern himself.
There are upsides to PC gaming (I'm a fan), but it comes with disproportionate cost, whether general effort involved or now actual cost.
Leaving it to autodetect is still at the mercy of all the variables that will interfere, anyone doing that without just throwing hardware+ at it is probably better served with a console.
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naah.. already working on 8K media and higher
It will die out as a disk in time for sure but still believe they will still sell physical media in some form with content on it. May end up being a usb stick of some form.
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And you can do exactly that on a PC. In fact my GF has a 3060ti and that's exactly what she does, she clicks New game and that's it.
But what does "at its best" mean? It's not running at what you think it's best, it's running at what the developer thinks its best for you. In some games they sacrifice framerate (down to 17 fps, lol) for image quality. Is that "at it's best"? Some people (like me) hate motion blur and all those viginete and stuff they put over the screen, so I disable them. If I don't have the option,, then the game isn't running at "it's best" for my needs.
Missing 4k bluray drive, HDMI cable and controllers (not some cheap knock off ones)...
Does that motherboard have Wifi too ... ?
Nope so need to add Wifi card too.
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Digital foundry did an analysis a while back which put an RTX 3070 8.6% faster than a PS5, but they couldn't fully match every setting so in reality it will be slightly more than that. I think 10% slower than a 6700 XT is a fair estimate.
naah.. already working on 8K media and higher
It will die out as a disk in time for sure but still believe they will still sell physical media in some form with content on it. May end up being a usb stick of some form.
Ok, but it is going to become incredibly niche.
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You sure? Cause I remember a digital foundry video where a 2060 super was beating the ps5. It was from a couple of years ago
Yes it will sadly as streaming is becoming the preferred way to watch movies and the movie collectors are the ones buying media and it will end up like Laserdisc did the movie nerds buying them (I was one of them with LD).
I think it is a bit more than that. As i wrote earlier, a Plagues Tale Requiem on Series X at 1440p (upscaled to 4k) ran horribly (30fps sometimes with dips below). A 3070 can manage an average of over 60fps at that 1440p native resolution. It could be that the CPU in the console was a bottleneck too though. However, that is quite a stark difference (that they couldn't get the Series X above 30fps at 1440p).
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I watched some DF comparisons and it really comes down to the specific games. The PS5 sometimes is equal / faster than a 2080, which means it's spot on to the 6700xt, sometimes its only matching a 2060 super. Maybe it is indeed the CPU that bottlenecks it in those cases, but what can you do about it.