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Who is upgrading a GPU for Diablo?! I played Diablo 3 on a MacBook...Anyone else thinks Diablo 4 is having a short affect on prices?
Seen a few posts about people saying they need a GPU upgrade for this and noticed prices gone up just a little over the last few weeks.
Have noticed a couple of bits have ticked up a little. Like it's harder to find a 4070 for £560 now. Hadn't thought about diablo 4 being the specific culprit though! Probably a bit of AI hype driving sales to entry level hobbyists etc. as well.Anyone else thinks Diablo 4 is having a short affect on prices?
Seen a few posts about people saying they need a GPU upgrade for this and noticed prices gone up just a little over the last few weeks.
i mean many gpu give you a free d4 code when you buy it so maybe they are doing it cause they want the game and have a potato gpu atmWho is upgrading a GPU for Diablo?! I played Diablo 3 on a MacBook...
Nvidia's market cap is 38 times their revenue, wrap your head around that and say it's not a bubble based on speculation.You say that but based on a recent conversations with a certain forum member it seems some people disagree that it's a bubble or simply down to stock market speculation.
I could see someone upgrading regardless if they found a GPU at a super low price, thanks to the bundle they save even more not having to buy D4 so it could be a fairly nice little win for a few individuals.i mean many gpu give you a free d4 code when you buy it so maybe they are doing it cause they want the game and have a potato gpu atm
I'm *inclined to agree but like i said based on recent conversations some people seem to actually believe it's because AI is the second coming and because Nvidia are at the forefront of that it's totally reasonable.Nvidia's market cap is 38 times their revenue, wrap your head around that and say it's not a bubble based on speculation.
That was me last year, wasn't impressed by anything because of the pricing so bought a 65" Qd-Oled.No intention still of buying a graphics card given the 'greedy *******' attitudes from NVidia, AMD and retailers.
Decided to buy a 55 inch 4k OLED LG TV purely for TV and movies, streaming etc., will still game on my PC and monitor.
A FAR better use of my money at this point in time, will see how prices are shaping up in 6 months or so.
Like I said before... The higher the margins, the more incentives for more players to come back.No intention still of buying a graphics card given the 'greedy *******' attitudes from NVidia, AMD and retailers.
Decided to buy a 55 inch 4k OLED LG TV purely for TV and movies, streaming etc., will still game on my PC and monitor.
A FAR better use of my money at this point in time, will see how prices are shaping up in 6 months or so.
Sounds like bubble talk to me.I'm *inclined to agree but like i said based on recent conversations some people seem to actually believe it's because AI is the second coming and because Nvidia are at the forefront of that it's totally reasonable.
*As i said I'm not a financial expert, heck i wasn't even aware it was 38 times their revenue until you mentioned it, I'm just a layman who thinks they've seen something that walks and quacks like a duck.
AI in itself is not a bubble, high GPU prices very likely are.Sounds like bubble talk to me.
I think the AI stuff is sort of part real, part bubble. Clearly we're getting something of value at the moment out of e.g. GPT but at the same time I think it's being misunderstood/overhyped in itself.AI in itself is not a bubble, high GPU prices very likely are.
Given the current development trend more than a wall it will be a steep incline of diminishing returns, GPT and generative AI are good but models cannot get much more massive before costing a space program worth of training (GPT3 training costed around $12 million just for datacenter fees!) and screening training data for quality is going to be *expensive*.I think the AI stuff is sort of part real, part bubble. Clearly we're getting something of value at the moment out of e.g. GPT but at the same time I think it's being misunderstood/overhyped in itself.
At some point people are going to come to a collective realisation that there's a wall this thing has hit that is really important and then we might see another AI winter, despite the underlying tech having delivered some actual value.
you just train another ai to screen for quality data and boom! ai all the way down till you get to step 4, profit!Given the current development trend more than a wall it will be a steep incline of diminishing returns, GPT and generative AI are good but models cannot get much more massive before costing a space program worth of training (GPT3 training costed around $12 million just for datacenter fees!) and screening training data for quality is going to be *expensive*.
And how do you define what quality data is? Training an effective large language model is a gargantuan task that goes beyond what most people can grasp, I do machine learning in my job and it would require me years of study before even attempting such a task.you just train another ai to screen for quality data and boom! ai all the way down till you get to step 4, profit!
I think our corporate overlords will have a quicker idea: decide on a rough set of vaguely good sounding principles and delegate the rest to an army of contractors who will label as much as the budget will allow as good or bad under a peer review process.And how do you define what quality data is? Training an effective large language model is a gargantuan task that goes beyond what most people can grasp, I do machine learning in my job and it would require me years of study before even attempting such a task.
That works for generic content, the kind of contractors needed for high quality stuff have fees starting with several hundred dollars per day.I think our corporate overlords will have a quicker idea: decide on a rough set of vaguely good sounding principles and delegate the rest to an army of contractors who will label as much as the budget will allow as good or bad under a peer review process.