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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

Calin Banc said:
arstechnica.com

Samsung forecasts a shocking 96 percent drop in profits for Q1 2023

Memory inventories are piling up, so Samsung is cutting production.
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Ups...
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Not surprised to be honest. I used to really like Samsung and saw them as a premium brand. Been mainly a Samsung mobile user since the Samsung D600. Still remember the ads on TV with José Mourinho for that phone circa 2005.

Some years back started buying kitchen appliances also seeing them as the more premium option. How wrong was I, better of withy something like Beko as those are cheaper and last longer. Everything Samsung I got has not lasted or kept breaking and their support was ****. Never again.

Now I only consider them for their mobiles at most. Seems to me they got greedy and took shortcuts and prioritised short term over long and now they are paying for it.

Wasnt their CEO arrested some years back? Lol
 
Speaking of GPU prices, I was browsing a popular home chain that's part of a supermarket and seen they now stock PC components, there is a 4070 that's 799 and a 6650 XT that is 556.70 and loads of 30xx cards that's are nearly double what OCUK are selling for. It shows that OCUK cares about their customers and sellers like the mentioned have no clue or are just out to fleece their customers.
 
Brackish said:
Speaking of GPU prices, I was browsing a popular home chain that's part of a supermarket and seen they now stock PC components, there is a 4070 that's 799 and a 6650 XT that is 556.70 and loads of 30xx cards that's are nearly double what OCUK are selling for. It shows that OCUK cares about their customers and sellers like the mentioned have no clue or are just out to fleece their customers.
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Wow!
 
Brackish said:
Speaking of GPU prices, I was browsing a popular home chain that's part of a supermarket and seen they now stock PC components, there is a 4070 that's 799 and a 6650 XT that is 556.70 and loads of 30xx cards that's are nearly double what OCUK are selling for. It shows that OCUK cares about their customers and sellers like the mentioned have no clue or are just out to fleece their customers.
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Probably just applying the margins they make on their usual goods and not realising that computer stuff especially components are single digit margins typically.
 
Gibbo said:
Probably just applying the margins they make on their usual goods and not realising that computer stuff especially components are single digit margins typically.
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How do manufacturer price drops work with sellers such as yourself? Presumably you buy stock at X price, so then surely if the maker then decides to lower RRP then you're screwed. Or do you effectively take them on loan and the pay the manufacturer their sale value at point of sale and then keep any leftovers as your margin?
 
Gibbo said:
Probably just applying the margins they make on their usual goods and not realising that computer stuff especially components are single digit margins typically.
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No chance of another Brucey bonus for OCUK AMD gpu stock this year?

(Thinking of an XTX perhaps later this year as I want to try 4K high refresh)
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
There is an argument for buying what you can afford this gen and locking in the prices.

Waiting till next gen might be met with poorer price/performance shenanigans.
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With how bad sales are for both vendors, I can't imagine we will see a new gen in the normal schedule.

AMD still hasn't released their full stack and it's been around 7-8 months now
 
GhostDog1981 said:
But it will come at an exorbitant cost I expect.
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As long as each tier improves in price for performance it does not matter. There only so much they can charge for each tier. Not like they will come in and ask £1500 for a 4070. They already tried all that crap and it obviously does not work. If they want to shift volume again they will need to do better.

But who knows. They may give a lot more orders for AI and leave much smaller numbers for us consumers and charge silly again. They will get ripped to shreds online if they try it though :)
 
TNA said:
As long as each tier improves in price for performance it does not matter. There only so much they can charge for each tier. Not like they will come in and ask £1500 for a 4070. They already tried all that crap and it obviously does not work. If they want to shift volume again they will need to do better.

But who knows. They may give a lot more orders for AI and leave much smaller numbers for us consumers and charge silly again. They will get ripped to shreds online if they try it though :)
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I don't think they care unfortunately.
 
TNA said:
About you and me? No.

About maximising leather jackets? Hell Yea!

My prediction is we will get more bang for our buck for sure. As an example 4080 performance will drop to £600 or thereabouts.
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7900xt is not far off a 4080 once overclocked (within 5%) and you can get those for £700ish depending on discounts- why wait till next gen?
 
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TNA said:
About you and me? No.

About maximising leather jackets? Hell Yea!

My prediction is we will get more bang for our buck for sure. As an example 4080 performance will drop to £600 or thereabouts.
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Lol

I hope you're right, but I'm worried you're not. Higher costs, normalisation of crypto prices, the emerging AI market (here to stay), the declining importance of the OC gaming industry, etc. The odds seem stacked against us.

Plus as only a fraction of buyers purchase high or enthusiast teir cards I expect they're only worried about selling tons of 16xx, 50, and 60 serious cards with an acceptable margin. I expect they sell 100s of those per one 4080.
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
7900xt is not far off a 4080 once overclocked (within 5%) and you can get those for £700ish depending on discounts- why wait till next gen?
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I was talking about Nvidia in particular. Not interested in the 7900 XT myself personally.

7900 XTX would interest me more. But first it would need to drop down to around £650 and then AMD would need to start upping their game with FSR. Oh and it would need to be done in the next 6 month's otherwise too close to next gen cards for me to bother. Not like what I have is stopping me from playing anything I want :)
 
gjbf1 said:
Lol

I hope you're right, but I'm worried you're not. Higher costs, normalisation of crypto prices, the emerging AI market (here to stay), the declining importance of the OC gaming industry, etc. The odds seem stacked against us.

Plus as only a fraction of buyers purchase high or enthusiast teir cards I expect they're only worried about selling tons of 16xx, 50, and 60 serious cards with an acceptable margin. I expect that sell 100s of those per one 4080.
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We all know the 4080 is barely even a £800 card. Nvidia will just come in and make it look like they are giving us a huge improvement in that tier. Think Turing to Ampere.

If they don't then AMD will crush them, well they should with the so called chiplets. But saying that they may just wait and release a card that is similar performance for $100 less. If that happens they will really annoy me and I think I will vow to boycott them for the foreseeable. I mean if I am going to get mugged off, might as well pay the extra $100 and get the better overall product and screw AMD.

I just don't see Nvidia giving them such an open goal again this time. But who knows. The AI thing makes things hard to predict. If it was not for that I would be almost sure of it.
 
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