When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

[Purgatory]

He probably means FE card can't see 4080 FE being £949 when 3080 FE is / was £649 . My guess 4080 FE £700-£750

Also remember the 3080FE 10GB was a unicorn card and just a marketing trick as real street prices were very different for the AIB models, also remember the 3080 12GB is really a $1000 card if there was an FE model as that's what they sold at as AIBs plus the AIBs extra added remember they were really 3080ti prices and why Nvidia didn't make an FE as they would have had to have a $1000 price tag, 3080ti remember is $1200 in FE form.

So expect the same games again from Nvidia with a unicorn card that you can't get at FE price or paying more for the AIB models again, also these next cards will have more than 10GB of vram and just looking at the 3080 12GB expect the 4080 to have a $999.99 price tag for the FE or a fake $849.99 price and no real availability and then they will create a 4080 with more vram again or more cores and call it the 4080 family and have a $1200 price or $1049.99 depending how many FEs they want to create and the 4080Ti is going to be $1500 or $1349.99.

Remember the family games they played with this gen for the 3080 and 3090.

4090 will be $1649.99 - $1749.00 and the 4090Ti well $1999.99 - $2499.99.

They saw what happened last time and what people paid and with inflation and still issues in manufacturing and supply of components and even the basic materials and shipping costs. Won't be a cheap generation this one and the power use is going to be silly on the top end cards, so new PSUs needed too to add to the cost of the GPUS for some.


Also wait and see what the scalpers will do too, they will buy up everything and make this mess worse too, even without mining and covid issues still going on. Also if mining kicks back in well good luck and it's about that time again for a new mining coin to hit the limelight .. Never ends really this mining mess as they move from coin to coin all the time every few years and always seems to land with new launches of gpus.

 

[uscool]

We'll see how it plays out it's all speculation what will happen

Will likely go with FE again if big gap in prices to AIB like i did with the 3080 signed up to the alerts didn't take that long to get one

Would really prefer AIB this time though

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

i was desperate for a new gpu for my son and myself after cashing in on mining and selling my vega, took a while stood fast refused to pay over odds and grabbed a 1060 6g and a 1070 amp for 100 each, 1060 was perfect, the amp had a stuck fan which took 2 mins to pull out and re oil, will wait to see what happens during next gen to see what a i fancy and of coarse prices

 

[ASMB]

i was desperate for a new gpu for my son and myself after cashing in on mining and selling my vega, took a while stood fast refused to pay over odds and grabbed a 1060 6g and a 1070 amp for 100 each, 1060 was perfect, the amp had a stuck fan which took 2 mins to pull out and re oil, will wait to see what happens during next gen to see what a i fancy and of coarse prices

Shows how much prices have come down, good buy especially on the 1070 which is still capable of playing any modern game at good settings, congrats

 

[Troezar]

Still not impressed with current prices. I can see some further reductions if they want to shift them before the new GPUs arrive. What kind of reductions do EOL cards normally see below MSRP?

 

[The_Arbiter]

Still not impressed with current prices. I can see some further reductions if they want to shift them before the new GPUs arrive. What kind of reductions do EOL cards normally see below MSRP?

This time round, possibly none, until the market saturates and the economy slows prices will fall again i reckon.

Looking at the 1050ti, 1650, etc, and how much they still cost. 1660super at the same price as a 3050 in some cases, mental.

 

[Alan McFall]

This time round, possibly none, until the market saturates and the economy slows prices will fall again i reckon.

Looking at the 1050ti, 1650, etc, and how much they still cost. 1660super at the same price as a 3050 in some cases, mental.

Prices will have to drop more if they want to carry on producing and selling their inventory before next gen production starts. Alternative is to stop production or sit on a mountain of GPU's that lose significant value upon next gen release. What am I missing ?

 

[Troezar]

This time round, possibly none, until the market saturates and the economy slows prices will fall again i reckon.

Looking at the 1050ti, 1650, etc, and how much they still cost. 1660super at the same price as a 3050 in some cases, mental.

Yes no way I'd pay these prices for old cards, I'd rather chance it on the new ones.

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

obviously cards are selling due to still high prices, so question is who the heck is buying these cards, very few miners still buying, so leaves the uninformed gamers maybe, but surely isnt a big enough market for that. the aib's/ distributors arent going to want to sit on stock, or they hoping the mining craze sparks back up

 

[ASMB]

Still not impressed with current prices. I can see some further reductions if they want to shift them before the new GPUs arrive. What kind of reductions do EOL cards normally see below MSRP?

Reductions for eol cards has varied from generation to generation. I have bought cards from nearly half price to one third cheaper, but the half price goes back to older generations. It was really hard to find nvidia 2000 cards reduced at EOL because of the great gpu shortage. I noticed over the weekend it was possible to pick up a new 2060 reduced to £250 and the 12GB 2060 has been available at a reasonable price compared to the launch price of the 6GB 2060. The 6500xt has already been selling under MRSP, eg £150 with delivery compared to MRSP of £179.

obviously cards are selling due to still high prices, so question is who the heck is buying these cards, very few miners still buying, so leaves the uninformed gamers maybe, but surely isnt a big enough market for that. the aib's/ distributors arent going to want to sit on stock, or they hoping the mining craze sparks back up

Some gpus have been a reasonable price in the last few weeks, eg Radeon 6600. The 6700xt offers performance that isn't so far from a 2080ti at what is roughly half the price. For the people buying overpriced cards perhaps the suggestion that the next generation will be expensive plus having to wait over 18 months for a decent price reduction meant that they decided to bite the bullet and buy

 

[CuriousTomCat]

MSRP refers to the Founders which always used to be more expensive than the AIB cards. So AIB was under MSRP at release and never went over. Prices got lower and lower until the next generation. Huge savings towards the end.

 

[The_Arbiter]

Prices will have to drop more if they want to carry on producing and selling their inventory before next gen production starts. Alternative is to stop production or sit on a mountain of GPU's that lose significant value upon next gen release. What am I missing ?

 Potential of higher than before release prices for new gen cards, potentially compounded by trickle release stock amounts forcing buyers to go with older cards.

Anyone's guess right now, and my guess is if the economies continue see issues then that's when we get the prices we're all after. I just can't see AIBs/shippers/distributors/AMD/Nvidia/etc giving in easily, i wonder what their projected growth and profits are like this time round.

 

[Troezar]

MSRP refers to the Founders which always used to be more expensive than the AIB cards. So AIB was under MSRP at release and never went over. Prices got lower and lower until the next generation. Huge savings towards the end.

It'll have to be huge savings to shift them I think, especially if those mining cards make a guest appearance

 

[Angilion]

Still not impressed with current prices. I can see some further reductions if they want to shift them before the new GPUs arrive. What kind of reductions do EOL cards normally see below MSRP?

In this case, I'm expecting very little. The manufacturers have been making record profits by selling at hugely inflated prices and people paid those prices. So I expect to see existing cards manufactured as close to just in time as possible and stopped completely as soon as possible, with the next generation being released with inflated prices. Not as inflated as prices were at their peak (and that will be framed as a reduction in prices) but well above pricing from before the huge inflation of prices.

So a very small number of current generation cards at a reduced price. Maybe none. Maybe the manufacturers will see it as more profitable to destroy them rather than having any customers buy them instead of buying a more expensive card from the new generation.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

So a very small number of current generation cards at a reduced price. Maybe none. Maybe the manufacturers will see it as more profitable to destroy them rather than having any customers buy them instead of buying a more expensive card from the new generation.

They would more likely end up on an auction site under a different name to the retailer, that is literally what can and does happen.

Nvidia gotta protect that margin god forbid they give away performance whilst netting a measly 60-80% profit on mass produced consumer electronics.

 

[robbw77]

Why are so many people here so confident that when the 4000 series cards release, we'll all be able to buy one at MSRP?

 

[Troezar]

Why are so many people here so confident that when the 4000 series cards release, we'll all be able to buy one at MSRP?

No Covid, no desperate customers, no US government cheques, no mining demand, wealthy buyers have already got a 30xx GPU, huge number of mining cards waiting in the wings, high inflation, stagnating economies, recovering supply chain. Other than that nothing I can think of

 

[robbw77]

No Covid, no desperate customers, no US government cheques, no mining demand, wealthy buyers have already got a 30xx GPU, huge number of mining cards waiting in the wings, high inflation, stagnating economies, recovering supply chain. Other than that nothing I can think of

I really hope your right.

I'm still on my GTX1080, initially wanting to buy an RTX 3080 2 years ago.....

I keep looking at 3080's now and holding off buying just in case of a major price drop but also now thinking should i wait for a 4000 series card.....

 

[Troezar]

I really hope your right.

I'm still on my GTX1080, initially wanting to buy an RTX 3080 2 years ago.....

I keep looking at 3080's now and holding off buying just in case of a major price drop but also now thinking should i wait for a 4000 series card.....

The best advice I've seen is, decide on the performance level you want and the price you want to pay. When you see both buy that GPU and enjoy it.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

a used 3080 for a good price would make a lot of sense, problem is who is selling one at a good price and do you trust them?