When will the censorship of anything criticising immigration stop?

[Abraham]

Right, and still the point is that these immigrants on the whole don't want to integrate. I don't see why you are nitpicking at whether what I've said is politically correct rather than focusing on the overwhelming point that was made.

Still, religion HAS shaped culture, and generally it is immigrants' refusal to integrate into their new country's culture that causes problems. It doesn't matter if the immigrants are religious are not, if they have a completely different culture and don't want to integrate it causes problems.

How do you not get it? It's not to do with whether it's politically correct...
It's just whether it's correct or not.
Do you have a problem with immigration, turks immigrating to germany, or do you have a problem with muslims? they are distinct things, you're trying to convey the former, but it's obvious you mean the latter from all your posts.

As I said ages ago there is no censorship of immigration concerns in this country, it was one of the focal points of the election, getting the majority of one of the 3 debates devoted to it. But immigration is immigration, it has nothing to do with religion, the word muslim is never relevant in a discussion on immigration.

 

[Patient Keeper]

How would you feel if Canadians said no room for British over there?

If you want to play the nit-picking game, then why are you using British-Muslim, and British-Canadian as similar terms? One is a nationality one is a religion?

 

[Abraham]

No such thing as a "British Muslim" IMO..

The very phrase I find highly offensive, and it makes me feel very uncomfortable.

There is no place for muslims over here.

What are you talking about? What do you care what religion someone is? Are you more bothered by muslims in the UK or jews, or atheists, or sikhs, or hindus, or buddhists, or satanists? Why single out one religion for your hate?

 

[Abraham]

If you want to play the nit-picking game, then why are you using British-Muslim, and British-Canadian as similar terms? One is a nationality one is a religion?

He didn't use either of those terms

 

[t3kno_tr0n|c]

What are you talking about? What do you care what religion someone is? Are you more bothered by muslims in the UK or jews, or atheists, or sikhs, or hindus, or buddhists, or satanists? Why single out one religion for your hate?

Because I cant stand islam, and I think its a crock of **** thats responsible for most of the worlds religious problems, not to mention the loss of life and acts of terror.

Its not a racist thing, id feel the same if the islamic morons were white, black, cream coloured, yellow, or green.

I cant abide it, and most people in the UK dont want or like muslims either.

 

[Patient Keeper]

He didn't use either of those terms

He is comparing his use of British-Muslims to a Canadians use of British-Canadians. He quite clearly did.

 

[Patient Keeper]

How do you not get it? It's not to do with whether it's politically correct...
It's just whether it's correct or not.
Do you have a problem with immigration, turks immigrating to germany, or do you have a problem with muslims? they are distinct things, you're trying to convey the former, but it's obvious you mean the latter from all your posts.

As I said ages ago there is no censorship of immigration concerns in this country, it was one of the focal points of the election, getting the majority of one of the 3 debates devoted to it. But immigration is immigration, it has nothing to do with religion, the word muslim is never relevant in a discussion on immigration.

I have a problem with almost all immigration, infact the only immigration I don't have a problem with is for skilled workers, and yet that is the only thing the Government seems to want to control. To say there is no censorship of immigration concerns is outrageous, we didn't have a debate about immigration during the election, that TV 'debate' addressed none of the immigration concerns and conveniently skipped out huge holes such as the EU immigration.

It doesn't matter what religion they are, the problem is when immigrants have a completely different culture (which inevitably has been shaped by religion), and refuse to integrate, this is what causes problems.

 

[PapaLazaru]

Because I cant stand islam, and I think its a crock of **** thats responsible for most of the worlds religious problems, not to mention the loss of life and acts of terror.

Its not a racist thing, id feel the same if the islamic morons were white, black, cream coloured, yellow, or green.

I cant abide it, and most people in the UK dont want or like muslims either.

Have you actually read about or even tried to find out why there are Muslim terrorists? Evidently not. Read up on people like Sayyid Qutb before you make assumptions to others that are based on your feeble knowledge because you asre just making yourself look stupid.

 

[Abraham]

Its not a racist thing, id feel the same if the islamic morons were white, black, cream coloured, yellow, or green.

It is, islam is a race, see definitions above... Your statement is quite openly racist.

I cant abide it, and most people in the UK dont want or like muslims either.

really? you speak for most of the UK do you? because 99% of the people I know are either welcoming (probably 5%) and the rest just couldn't give a fig, they're more intelligent than to be bothered by someone elses religion, or to tar everyone within a group with the same brush. By your own logic I guess I'm right in assuming you're a skinhead moronic neo-nazi who posts on stormfront and thinks that white is right? Probably given half a chance would give a muslim a kicking for being a muslim too, yeah?

 

[Abraham]

He is comparing his use of British-Muslims to a Canadians use of British-Canadians. He quite clearly did.

He didn't, the last part of the quoted post said he didn't want muslims in this country, so the comparision is to canadians not wanting brits in theirs. It's nothing to do with terminoligy, just retarded irrational hatred.

 

[Patient Keeper]

It is, islam is a race, see definitions above... Your statement is quite openly racist.

really? you speak for most of the UK do you? because 99% of the people I know are either welcoming (probably 5%) and the rest just couldn't give a fig, they're more intelligent than to be bothered by someone elses religion, or to tar everyone within a group with the same brush. By your own logic I guess I'm right in assuming you're a skinhead moronic neo-nazi who posts on stormfront and thinks that white is right? Probably given half a chance would give a muslim a kicking for being a muslim too, yeah?

Islam is now a race?

 

[Vonhelmet]

Because I cant stand islam, and I think its a crock of **** thats responsible for most of the worlds religious problems, not to mention the loss of life and acts of terror.

Haha, you're not very well educated.

Its not a racist thing, id feel the same if the islamic morons were white, black, cream coloured, yellow, or green.

Nice.

I cant abide it, and most people in the UK dont want or like muslims either.

Well, if it brings you comfort to believe that... Sadly, I'm sure that it does.

 

[Patient Keeper]

He didn't, the last part of the quoted post said he didn't want muslims in this country, so the comparision is to canadians not wanting brits in theirs. It's nothing to do with terminoligy, just retarded irrational hatred.

One is a religion, one is a nationality.

 

[Abraham]

despite the inaccuracy of rolling out that mantra in this instance, it can be. A race (as a social grouping, rather than biologically) is a group of people joined by culture, language, social practice or heritable characteristics.
Religions are joined by culture, language and social practice, and in some cases where there is a stronger hereditary link it may even meet the criteria for a biological race (judaism)

Islam is now a race?

 

[t3kno_tr0n|c]

He didn't, the last part of the quoted post said he didn't want muslims in this country, so the comparision is to canadians not wanting brits in theirs. It's nothing to do with terminoligy, just retarded irrational hatred.

Its hardly irrational. They have nothing whatsoever in common with us.

They cant even follow our UK vetinary practices, OR our UK monetary rules.

Its all got to be "special" for their silly religion.

The only way I can see to stop it, its for me to have as many children as possible, and let us Brits out breed them.

 

[Vonhelmet]

One is a religion, one is a nationality.

OK then, how about if Canadians said they didn't want Christians in there, improbable though that is.

 

[Abraham]

One is a religion, one is a nationality.

I didn't say it was a great comparision. Just that it wasn't one of semantics which you were trying to say it was.

I actually agree with you that it's retarded to want British people out of Britain no matter what their religion, that is what you meant isn't it?

 

[Vonhelmet]

Its hardly irrational. They have nothing whatsoever in common with us.

Lies.

They cant even follow our UK vetinary practices, OR our UK monetary rules.

It's a cheap shot, but you can't even spell veterinary. In either case, I've no idea what you're talking about.

Its all got to be "special" for their silly religion.

[citation needed]

The only way I can see to stop it, its for me to have as many children as possible, and let us Brits out breed them.

God help us.

 

[Vonhelmet]

In other news, I enjoy being a second generation immigrant, who - being white, as I am - is indistinguishable from a "native". I feel like an interloper, or a James Bond spy or something.

I'M IN YOUR BASE, TAKING YOUR JOBS.

 

[Abraham]

Its hardly irrational. They have nothing whatsoever in common with us.

They cant even follow our UK vetinary practices, OR our UK monetary rules.

Its all got to be "special" for their silly religion.

The only way I can see to stop it, its for me to have as many children as possible, and let us Brits out breed them.

What "us" are you talking about? They're British AND Muslim, one doesn't preclude the other.