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I beleive this is the impression the OP has.
Which is worth it more?
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I beleive this is the impression the OP has.
Soldato
What like the similar 'pedigrees' of a Corvette and a BMW M5?
One would hope you can see my point now. Otherwise you have just contradicted yourself twice.
Caporegime
they are similar in that they both have a pedigree is the point that i was trying to make. Quite why you need to come across so stuck up and jumping to have a go i dont klnow, when in fact all you really dont like is my english
Shall i submit all my posts to you for grammar checking by your good self in future ?
Soldato
[TW]Fox;16033936 said:
Exactly.
Soldato
So should I bother posting my thoughts on the C6 'vette and Monaro (having now driven both) or should I just leave y'all to your truly riveting argument?
Soldato
Its not the grammar, it didn't make any sense to me reading it! Thats beyond grammar checking. The word similar has obviously proved to be a redundant word you did not need to include and only served to confuse the point you were making.
I have very little reason to have a go at you over such a minor thing I just wanted some clarity to see what the hell was happening in this thread.
Caporegime
[TW]Fox;16033936 said:
Maybe, but i think we've all highlighted that allthough similar - they go about their objective in very different ways.
The monaro kerbweight is 1647 kilos. the C5 Corvette only 1439 kilos.
thats like being 3 up every time you go out in the monaro.
perhaps if your post didnt come across as "you know nothing fool, i know better, i dont know why i even bother reading posts from plebs like you"
I wouldnt have called you stuck up and taken such the hump with you. If your post instead was "are you trying to insinuate that the M5 is a light weight supercar" i dont think i would have been quite so stroppy with you, and merely clarified my point.
Please do
I've already said that allthough technically in the same class (being V8 front engined RWD coupes with big american V8s) they go about their execution very differently, using different components - like the corvette using glass fibre panels and plywood, with leaf springs etc... Would be lovely to hear your thoughts on how differently they do do it ...
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Soldato
Only if you can justify why they cost a significantly different amount.
Although thats always been a mystery of many consumer products; there resale values.
Soldato
If being V8 front-engine rear-drive coupés makes them the same class despite being completely different cars for different markets, then I'm afraid I have to admit to being confused. Because they just aren't that similar.
The Monaro is a big barnstorming coupé. A four-seater, as happy to pootle around soaking up speedhumps and potholes as it is to drive everywhere sideways with smoke pouring from the tyres. Hugely good fun, but I'm a sucker for cars like that. Not as fast as the 'vette, nor anywhere near as composed if you were going to try and drive quickly around a track as opposed to driving around perpendicular to the direction of travel. But it 'works' on more occasions than the Corvette.
The C6 'vette is a sports car that does a fairly decent imitation of a proper supercar. Low slung, two seats, light weight, able to show a Ferrari the way around a lot of racetracks. Not great around town (barely acceptable in the case of the Z06 IMO, and I really like Corvettes), not even that brilliant on British motorways (though I must admit overtaking is fun when you have that LS motor up front). It needs a track or a really good stretch of road to come alive. When it does, you'll wonder what you ever saw in a Porsche 911 or Lamborghini Gay-ardo.
At the price point helpimcrap talks about, it'd be a C5 'vette. And at that point I'd say the Monaro is a much better bet as it's more useable and just as much fun when the road opens up. Open the budget up to the level of a C6 (£30k gets you a truly decent one AFAIK), and it gets a bit stickier. Think I'd buy an older Monaro and spend the extra cash on doing something silly to the engine, but that's just me....
Caporegime
Why did autocar compare the m3 with the 911 GT3 and nissan GTR ?
they're blatently different cars for different markets. The GT3 is a race car for the road. The M3 just isnt, its nowhere near it.
But they got included in the test because they are similar. thats the kind of point im making
and everyboooooooooooooody breeeeaatthhe. 
Get back to the original question. Forget pther cars/bikes etc.
I get that the vette is 'marginally' quicker and looks prettier. Is that it?
If we were to be looking at Vettes as part'supercar' there is always the case of the Ferrari 456GT at amazingly good 2nd hand value with a 5.5l V12, 0-60 in 5s and a top speed of about 190mph.
it's not much more than a Vette.....
Get back to the original question. Forget pther cars/bikes etc.
I get that the vette is 'marginally' quicker and looks prettier. Is that it?
If we were to be looking at Vettes as part'supercar' there is always the case of the Ferrari 456GT at amazingly good 2nd hand value with a 5.5l V12, 0-60 in 5s and a top speed of about 190mph.
it's not much more than a Vette..... 
Man of Honour
I'd choose a donkey tbh.
The problem is this rubbish about it being marginally quicker. If it was only marginally quicker I would half see your point.
But its not. It is hugely faster. As a car it is on another level from the Monaro. They drive differently, one is much faster, to keep comparing them just because they have the same base engine is just silly.
And a 456 is a 4 seater whereas a Corvette seats only two.
But its not. It is hugely faster. As a car it is on another level from the Monaro. They drive differently, one is much faster, to keep comparing them just because they have the same base engine is just silly.
And a 456 is a 4 seater whereas a Corvette seats only two.
Soldato
Don't forget that about 15k-17k will probably net you not a plain C5, but a Z06 - and that's 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, amongst other things......and that thing is quite the supercar slayer! Absolutely fantastic on the road and not too bad pootling around town either.
Better fuel economy than the Monaro too, because, let's be honest, that's what we're all really interested in at the end of the day
You can even find C6's drifting around the 20k mark now too.....
Better fuel economy than the Monaro too, because, let's be honest, that's what we're all really interested in at the end of the day
You can even find C6's drifting around the 20k mark now too.....
Man of Honour
I get that the vette is 'marginally' quicker and looks prettier. Is that it?
I'll be the first to admit I know next to nothing about cars but basic supply and demand suggests that if something is relatively rare yet desirable (e.g. the Corvette) then it will command a higher price than something which is more commonly available.
Soldato
I can't say I ever had any issue with my ones, barring some wear on the bolsters in line with age. My one that had 168k on it was like new inside, it was remarkable! Very tough suprisingly sometimes
The Z06 I drove was a great place to be but obviously (in line with price) not made from as-high a quality materials you'd expect given the looks outside - however it was perfectly solid and robust, especially the important things like steering wheel, pedals (ace) and gearshift (awesome
). No creaks, rattles or clunks Nice amount of equipment too, to say the least.
I've been in a fair few now and never been disappointed with the interiors - yes they are less impressive than the (performance-based) competitors internally, but that's because the competitors all cost considerable amounts more
Interior's where most of the cuts come from, it would seem.The only Corvette interiors I really don't like are the horrible beige/bright tan coloured ones you sometimes get in C5s - ghastly!
Was in a newer C6 recently and that too was a very nice place to be - don't get me wrong, not the wow factor of a Ferrari interior or the finish of a top-spec BMW, but comfortable and nicely built nonetheless - and at half the price......
Drove a Cayman S recently and that has a very disappointing interior - much less pleasant than the C6's!
Corvettes are always quite docile things really.....just get in the car, turn the key and drive. Pretty much what they were built to do
Even after 24 years my first one was still doing just that
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