White man doing a Black thing?

InwardSinging said:
Rappers delight was definetly the first released record though, in the 70's.
Not sure I'm going with that, it was one of the first (possibly THE first) big hip-hop tune, but to say it was the first ever released rap song is a big call.
 
your friends know nothing.
UB40 along with The Specials and The Beat were one of the few 'integrated 'groups.They were always having trouble at their early gigs due to the National Front and the BNP turning up to object to what they were doing.
Vanilla Ice was just a pop star reflecting the populist mood, didn't it turn out that it was not even him singing on his records?
Back in the 50's there was a lot of controversy about 'white ' radio stations playing music by black artists, as it was radio they did not know the colour of the artist.They even had doubts about playing Elvis when he started out
If you really want to hear white,middle class folk doing 'black' music you should give Tom Tom Club a listen to, it does not always work.
 
What would happen if it was a white guy slagging off a black guys efforts to do something like Rock. There would an almighty who-ha and the term racist would be flying around like it was going out of fashion.

What would your friends say if a white guy were to laugh at their efforts to do something because they didn't sound white Elrazur, would they be screaming ZOMG RACIALIST!!!!!!? I supsect they would.

Funny how they wanted to be treated the same but but discriminate because of peoples skin colour at the same time eh?
 
Gilly said:
Not sure I'm going with that, it was one of the first (possibly THE first) big hip-hop tune, but to say it was the first ever released rap song is a big call.

Okay, you got me on that, it was technically the second rap record ever released, the fatback band had a record out a few weeks before. It was the first crossover track to the mainstream.

It would have been first though, the original was 15 minutes long, by the time they had whittled it down to 4 minutes odd, the fatback had theirs out, so its a bit of a blurred line as to which was technically first.
 
Gilly said:
Racism is everywhere I'm afraid dude.


I wouldn't say Eminem is trying to be black or trying to act black.

You put a white kid in the middle of a bunch of black kids and raise him there and see how it affects the way he acts, talks, etc. In fact, you could do that for anything at all.

I guess so.

You see exactly what you said was what Snow was implying in the track Informer and i dont think it went down well amongst some.
 
Tru said:
It was the first 'rap' video, I think, maybe just the first one on MTV. She name checks Fab Five Freddy in it so rap was definitely already established.
I sit corrected. It was the first new-wave song to contain rap.

She had way better legs than Vanilla Ice or Snow, though. :D
 
I understood that Kurtis Blow was the first rap act to be signed to a major label and the first to have a rap single go gold (The Breaks).

But the Sugar Hill Gang were the first to have commercial success with Rappers Delight but were not signed to a major label at the time(can't hear that song without thinking of Turk from Scrubs with his alarm clock :rolleyes: ) :D
 
ElRazur said:
I actually asked if there is any black man doing rock and do they get slagged off for doing a white thing?

er... i can only for some reason think of Lenny Kravitz right now and certainly no-one I can think of would **** him off for doing a 'white thing'. I mean Hendrix was a rock star too and he certainly wasn't white, so I don't know how you'd categorise it as such.

I don't think there are such things as 'white things' - none we'd want to lay claim to anyway :)
 
kitten_caboodle said:


Hendirix looks cool to me and Kravitz is good (love the tune - all i wanna do is get away....)


I wasnt trying to categorize as such, i was only using the same term my friend used - Black thing ... So as to put things into perspective.
 
Elvis, Buddy Holly, Jerry lee Lewis, Clapton, the Beatles and a million others were all trying to be black.
Without blacks we'd have no decent music.
 
ElRazur said:
I actually asked if there is any black man doing rock and do they get slagged off for doing a white thing?

I wasn't aiming my 1st comment at you, I was passing comment on what I'm sure would happen. As others have stated there are black guys in rock and no mention of their enthicity is made

My 2nd comment was a direct question for you
 
QABoy said:
Elvis, Buddy Holly, Jerry lee Lewis, Clapton, the Beatles and a million others were all trying to be black.
Without blacks we'd have no decent music.

I beg your pardon? they was making music imo and wasnt trying to be black. Are you telling me you would say eminem, Vanilla ice, snow, Jin, Fat Joe...are all trying to be black?
 
ElRazur I wasnt trying to categorize as such said:
Black thing[/I] ... So as to put things into perspective.

yeah i didn't mean you specifically, I meant that I'm unsure how anyone could categorise it because there's no hard and fast 'originals' if that makes sense. :)

Interesting point though.
 
What about The Rock? Is he black or what?



IT DOESNT MATTER




sorry, that was rubbish.
 
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